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I need cold brown
yoshmyster
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Looking to brown my J. Steven's 16 gauge. Since the wood is jacked and I figure cold blue will be too good I figure brown like rusted patina would be better. I suppose I could do controlled rust then oil finish but I think I want something like that Brownell's Oxpho- Blue stuff. Easy. Dab, steel wool and repeate.
So who makes a good and easy cold brown secret sauce?
So who makes a good and easy cold brown secret sauce?
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Dan
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Birchwood Casey makes a plum brown finish. I have never used it, so I really can't give you a users report.
Dan
I have found Plum Brown to be quite satisfactory.
quote:Originally posted by searcher5
Birchwood Casey makes a plum brown finish. I have never used it, so I really can't give you a users report.
Dan
I have found Plum Brown to be quite satisfactory.
I sold this to all of my customers who bought a Black Powder kit rifle. The browning came out very nice on all of them, even the ones with questionable building skills, so as far as I'm concerned it is so easy that even a moron can do it
Takes time but is not hard to do.
It's the best I have ever used.
I sold this to all of my customers who bought a Black Powder kit rifle. The browning came out very nice on all of them, even the ones with questionable building skills, so as far as I'm concerned it is so easy that even a moron can do it
Ouch. Saying something about this Yellowneck [:D]? Looks like I'll be shopping for Birchwood Casey's plum brown finish. So is it plum or brown in color?
So I need to heat the metal huh? I'll have to get the portable propane heater under it to warm it up.
quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
I sold this to all of my customers who bought a Black Powder kit rifle. The browning came out very nice on all of them, even the ones with questionable building skills, so as far as I'm concerned it is so easy that even a moron can do it
Ouch. Saying something about this Yellowneck [:D]? Looks like I'll be shopping for Birchwood Casey's plum brown finish. So is it plum or brown in color?
So I need to heat the metal huh? I'll have to get the portable propane heater under it to warm it up.
The finger wasn't pointed at you, but it may have been in your general direction[;)]
I would say that it is plum with a brown tinge to it, remember, not to much heat, a hair dryer would work fine
quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
I sold this to all of my customers who bought a Black Powder kit rifle. The browning came out very nice on all of them, even the ones with questionable building skills, so as far as I'm concerned it is so easy that even a moron can do it
Ouch. Saying something about this Yellowneck [:D]? Looks like I'll be shopping for Birchwood Casey's plum brown finish. So is it plum or brown in color?
So I need to heat the metal huh? I'll have to get the portable propane heater under it to warm it up.
The finger wasn't pointed at you, but it may have been in your general direction[;)]
I would say that it is plum with a brown tinge to it, remember, not to much heat, a hair dryer would work fine
Does plum mean purple?
I hate purple guns. Seems Ruger and S&W Autos have guns turn purple over time.
Does plum mean purple?
I hate purple guns. Seems Ruger and S&W Autos have guns turn purple over time.
My bro has like three H&K P7M8 (the sqeeze cockers) that are all shades of purple [:D].
quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
I sold this to all of my customers who bought a Black Powder kit rifle. The browning came out very nice on all of them, even the ones with questionable building skills, so as far as I'm concerned it is so easy that even a moron can do it
Ouch. Saying something about this Yellowneck [:D]? Looks like I'll be shopping for Birchwood Casey's plum brown finish. So is it plum or brown in color?
So I need to heat the metal huh? I'll have to get the portable propane heater under it to warm it up.
When I browned my BP Rifle back in the 70's...
I put it in the oven... Evenly heating it so as to allow even browning.
The key is a thorough soaking of the steel of heat WITHOUT "HOT" spots...
Hot spots makes the finish come out splotchy.
Use a very fine steel wool as well... You can get it at furniture refinishing hardware stores.
quote:Originally posted by drobs
Does plum mean purple?
I hate purple guns. Seems Ruger and S&W Autos have guns turn purple over time.
My bro has like three H&K P7M8 (the sqeeze cockers) that are all shades of purple [:D].
I hate Purple HK's too.
That and those squeeze cockers get awfully warm fast. It's like the chamber gases vent down through the grip.
No chemicals required, just some steel wool n'elbow grease, a couple of corks,
a moist laden environment, time, and an ol'oily rag. [;)]
C&PBrowning a Barrel
By Kevin Michalowski
Rust has a pretty bad reputation, especially when it comes to firearms. But there's good rust and bad rust. In years past, a good layer of rust could provide a nice finish for a hunting gun. Those days are all but forgotten.
Bluing is so common now that most people think it's the only way to finish gunmetal. Sure, some shotguns are nickel-plated and some rifles are made of stainless steel, but in years gone by, it was nothing more than rust that added color to a gun.
Establishing a layer of controlled rust, typically called "browning," will create a lovely finish and even offer a level of protection similar to bluing. Best of all, it's easy. It doesn't involve any volatile chemicals and costs next to nothing.
I watched my dad finish a shotgun barrel
in such a way nearly 30 years ago,
and that old single barrel
looks and shoots fine to this day.
"It was really pretty simple," he recalls. "I corked both ends of the barrel and scrubbed the outside completely clean with steel wool and degreaser. Then I set it in a damp place, the basement, overnight. By morning, there was a very thin layer of rust. I wiped that down with an oily rag, degreased the metal again and let it sit. I checked it every day. In less than a week, I liked how it looked and called it done."
With browning, the steps are simple, but each is very important. Corking both ends of the barrel seals out moisture and keeps the bore from rusting. Use a potent degreaser and wear gloves or the rust will not appear evenly over the metal. There's nothing worse than trying to buff out rusty fingerprints from a poorly prepared barrel. Once the layer of rust appears, wipe it with a soft, lightly oiled cloth. That removes the top layer and allows the rust to build up evenly when you clean it with the degreaser and start the process again.
When you've achieved the color you like, wipe down the metal with an oiled cloth and treat the gun as you would any blued firearm.
Browning the steel parts is a great way to create a rich finish while adding a hint of old-fashioned charm to any firearm, but it seems especially fitting on older guns.
Reprinted from the August 2004 issue of Buckmasters GunHunter Magazine
My gunsmith gets these kind a guns since we live in the area by the ocean. Keeps him busy and rich [:D].
I'll keep this in mind after I goof it up. Curious how warm am I supposed to get the metal?
Barzillia - What does this printed circuit board etchant do?
retroxler58 - Yeah controlled rusting. I made a lounge chair out of car leaf springs. I am a big boy after all [:D]. The areas where my hands and arm rests got beautiful brown from contact.
My gunsmith gets these kind a guns since we live in the area by the ocean. Keeps him busy and rich [:D].
I'll keep this in mind after I goof it up. Curious how warm am I supposed to get the metal?
Barzillia - What does this printed circuit board etchant do?
Remember that this was in the mid 70's...
IIRC... We took the oven up to 250 or 275... The reason is I remember having to use some protection from the heat on my hands...
AND that the moisture sizzled and evaporated off... (Above 212 boiling for H2O)
It may have been actually lower... Not sure.
But I do know that we let the steel "soak" so that it had an even temperature through the steel.
THAT is the key to an even finishing job and not coming out splotchy...
Be sure you use very fine steel wool as well...
You'll need to apply the browning solution more than once...
The more the deeper the finish will be... Using steel wool after heat treatment.
AND finally using the oil... It soaks into the finely rusted surface to give you that 'Plump Brown' color you're looking for.