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Gunsmith service values
toad67
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What type of % value if any do you guys put on Gunsmith services to used gun value? For example if a Smith did a trigger job and a barrel recrown on a persons firearm and charged $150 would you add $150 to the value of the gun if you went to sell or buy it? Thoughts?
Todd
Todd
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With hot rods and guns, it's hard to get the money out that you sink into them.
+1 this.
With hot rods and guns, it's hard to get the money out that you sink into them.
Yep, agree. That $150.00 worth of work probably only raises the value of the firearm 40-50 bucks.
I'm on the buying end of the deal FWIW......
Well, break out some specifics. What kind of gun? What kind of work? And what kind of gunsmith did the work?
If I don't know the gunsmith personally or by reputation, or can't get a recommendation, I'd take the value of any work with a shaker of salt.
Lance
Todd
Remington 700 LSS in 257 Wby, recrowned, bedded and trigger job by a good local smith. Gun was made in 2008 only with a laminated stock and 26" stainless barrel and action. I've shot it and 1/2" @ 100 is the average. I'm thinking $800 or so with 4 boxes of ammo. Whatcha think? Thanks.
Todd
Good price. Any scope? Also, if you know and trust the smith, that goes a long way.
Remington 700 LSS in 257 Wby, recrowned, bedded and trigger job by a good local smith. Gun was made in 2008 only with a laminated stock and 26" stainless barrel and action. I've shot it and 1/2" @ 100 is the average. I'm thinking $800 or so with 4 boxes of ammo. Whatcha think? Thanks.
Todd
Is it Weatherby Ammo made by Norma ?
Remington 700 LSS in 257 Wby, recrowned, bedded and trigger job by a good local smith. Gun was made in 2008 only with a laminated stock and 26" stainless barrel and action. I've shot it and 1/2" @ 100 is the average. I'm thinking $800 or so with 4 boxes of ammo. Whatcha think? Thanks.
Todd
Sounds like a real nice gun.
Todd
With hot rods and guns, it's hard to get the money out that you sink into them.
depending on the Gun in question , and the work done ???
May very well add to the value ,
or ,
Maybe Not ???
a bunch of variables here ......
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Most ofetn any Smithin' work done "jus'because" you wanted it done...
Will net you zip in return unless it provides "added value" and is sought out by many as well.
If'n the used gun can't be used without needed Smithin'...
Than the added cost will at least get you to the market value for that particular piece.
But, rarely provide you 'more' than market value...
Sometimes a "wall hanger" just needs to be admired for it's history... and left alone. [;)]
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Like making an inline 58 cal Black Powder Rifle from a Savage 220...
It simply is what it is... Nothing more.
A "used Sav-220" now barreled for a 54 cal Black Powder Bullet...
No amount of effort or money can change that... [;)]
With hot rods and guns,Wimmin's it's hard to get the money out that you sink into them.
Barrel re-crown - was it damaged or a custom barrel job? You shouldn't pay extra to bring the gun back to original functional condition. If custom barrel work I can see paying a premium if it has proven results.
Smithin' is either a "needed" procedure or a "wanted" procedure...
Most ofetn any Smithin' work done "jus'because" you wanted it done...
Will net you zip in return unless it provides "added value" and is sought out by many as well.
If'n the used gun can't be used without needed Smithin'...
Than the added cost will at least get you to the market value for that particular piece.
But, rarely provide you 'more' than market value...
Sometimes a "wall hanger" just needs to be admired for it's history... and left alone. [;)]
Like making an inline 58 cal Black Powder Rifle from a Savage 220...
It simply is what it is... Nothing more.
A "used Sav-220" now barreled for a 54 cal Black Powder Bullet...
No amount of effort or money can change that... [;)]
L[:p]L! Now I have to clean my monitor. [^]
1/2" groups is the proof of value added.
What you think it's worth is subjective.
quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
Smithin' is either a "needed" procedure or a "wanted" procedure...
Most often any Smithin' work done "jus'because" you wanted it done...
Will net you zip in return unless it provides "added value" and is sought out by many as well.
If'n the used gun can't be used without needed Smithin'...
Than the added cost will at least get you to the market value for that particular piece.
But, rarely provide you 'more' than market value...
Sometimes a "wall hanger" just needs to be admired for it's history... and left alone. [;)]
Like making an inline 58 cal Black Powder Rifle from a Savage 220...
It simply is what it is... Nothing more.
A "used Sav-220" now barreled for a 54 cal Black Powder Bullet...
No amount of effort or money can change that... [;)]
L[:p]L! Now I have to clean my monitor. [^]
Well... Am I wrong? [:D]
quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
Smithin' is either a "needed" procedure or a "wanted" procedure...
Most often any Smithin' work done "jus'because" you wanted it done...
Will net you zip in return unless it provides "added value" and is sought out by many as well.
If'n the used gun can't be used without needed Smithin'...
Than the added cost will at least get you to the market value for that particular piece.
But, rarely provide you 'more' than market value...
Sometimes a "wall hanger" just needs to be admired for it's history... and left alone. [;)]
Like making an inline 58 cal Black Powder Rifle from a Savage 220...
It simply is what it is... Nothing more.
A "used Sav-220" now barreled for a 54 cal Black Powder Bullet...
No amount of effort or money can change that... [;)]
L[:p]L! Now I have to clean my monitor. [^]
Well... Am I wrong? [:D]
Be nice! [:p]
Actualy a well done hot rod sells more than an original today.
Yep, and they still sell for 30%-50% of what you have in them.
The worst I saw, was a 'custom-tuned' 10mm Colt Government that had half of the bottom of the chamber ground away. The guy had ground the feed ramp to a shallow angle, and ground it so far forward that the rear of the barrel would overhang the feed ramp by a long way when the barrel was at the rear (in the feeding position). So he simply ground the bottom of the chamber away, to match.
I really like the words 'factory original'.
the bottom line is that a buyer wont pay much for your custom work. if they were going to pay for custom work, they would commission the work themselves.
this is a variable concept though. boilerplate custom work(trigger job etc) you can get a decent amount of the cost back. real custom work(unusual furniture, engraving, other out of the box stuff) is frequently too unique.
quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
quote:Originally posted by FEENIX
quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
Smithin' is either a "needed" procedure or a "wanted" procedure...
Most often any Smithin' work done "jus'because" you wanted it done...
Will net you zip in return unless it provides "added value" and is sought out by many as well.
If'n the used gun can't be used without needed Smithin'...
Than the added cost will at least get you to the market value for that particular piece.
But, rarely provide you 'more' than market value...
Sometimes a "wall hanger" just needs to be admired for it's history... and left alone. [;)]
Like making an inline 58 cal Black Powder Rifle from a Savage 220...
It simply is what it is... Nothing more.
A "used Sav-220" now barreled for a 54 cal Black Powder Bullet...
No amount of effort or money can change that... [;)]
L[:p]L! Now I have to clean my monitor. [^]
Well... Am I wrong? [:D]
Be nice! [:p]
I was being nice... If I'm wrong... I'd be the first to admit it and apologize.
But I highly doubt I'm in error on this one. [;)]
maybe 1/3 of the cost at best, and even than you've got to find a buyer who wanted the exact work done that the previous owner did.
Exactly...
Everyone's idea of improvement over the base model is different...
Add cost if you like but be aware that cost does not EQUAL added value...
And consequently, the opposite holds true as well...
quote:Originally posted by bhale187
maybe 1/3 of the cost at best, and even than you've got to find a buyer who wanted the exact work done that the previous owner did.
Exactly...
Everyone's idea of improvement over the base model is different...
Add cost if you like but be aware that cost does not EQUAL added value...
And consequently, the opposite holds true as well...
I agree 100% with you on your thoughts. However on this gun the added $ value of the services was pretty minimal. When I asked the question I was not sure where he was going to start in regards to price. I feel that the added services made the gun go from good to great and I got it for what I feel was a good price. I also realize that the value is in the eyes of the beholder and there is a big difference between services that improve or just make a gun serviceable. Thanks again for all of the input.
Todd
quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
quote:Originally posted by bhale187
maybe 1/3 of the cost at best, and even than you've got to find a buyer who wanted the exact work done that the previous owner did.
Exactly...
Everyone's idea of improvement over the base model is different...
Add cost if you like but be aware that cost does not EQUAL added value...
And consequently, the opposite holds true as well...
I agree 100% with you on your thoughts. However on this gun the added $ value of the services was pretty minimal. When I asked the question I was not sure where he was going to start in regards to price. I feel that the added services made the gun go from good to great and I got it for what I feel was a good price. I also realize that the value is in the eyes of the beholder and there is a big difference between services that improve or just make a gun serviceable. Thanks again for all of the input.
Todd
What's MOST important is that you AND the seller feel you made a good deal...
He that he got enough to cover his costs adequately... And...
You that you got enough value to cover the cost of purchase.
Anything else... Well really doesn't matter.
Glad you feel good about it... [;)]