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Need help with speeders on county rd

firechieffirechief Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2009 in General Discussion
We live on a county road that is gravel except where some who live on it have it chip and sealed. We have a fire pit, my daughters trampoline and swingset about 75' off the road. We also have 2 dogs that won't leave the yard, and I don't allow them to get close to the road either. The problem is that some cars choose to speed, and I would guess the speed to be over 60 mph. The road is not posted, but the speed limit on county roads is 30 mph. I have called the sheriff over a dozen times and they have not even sent a deputy out. I even went as far as to call the county highway supervisor also, but he didn't have anything except to call the sheriff. Across the road from us is a woods and about a 250 acres field where deer cross from it to our yard/pasture all the time. It's just a matter of time before someone ends up taking out the tree in the side yard. I have gotten up before and found tracks in the yard where someone has came into it to miss an animal or something. I will say that most of the speeders that we see are young kids. Short of putting a few speed bumps in the road does anyone have any ideas for me? With the sheriff not doing anything I have thought about calling the state police, but I don't think they would do anything either. I am at a loss and fear for my family. This is an accident waiting to happen and I'd like to be proactive instead of reactive. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    claymore mines hooked up to a radar gun, set to go off avove a certain MPH.

    YA might need a little legal help after that, though[:)]
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just put up a sign saying "CAUTION! NUDIST CAMP AHEAD" [:D]
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Put heads on sticks
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • Nurse DebbieNurse Debbie Member Posts: 61 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    Just put up a sign saying "CAUTION! NUDIST CAMP AHEAD" [:D]




    LOL that will work I am sure.[:X]
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tell you how I solved the problem of speeders on our gravel road. I just parked my truck and trailer on the side of the road, across from my mailbox. It's amazing to see how people will slow down when they think they might wreck their own car/truck. Never once have I had the sheriff out about the parking either!


    got guns?
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Nurse Debbie
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    Just put up a sign saying "CAUTION! NUDIST CAMP AHEAD" [:D]




    LOL that will work I am sure.[:X]


    Welcome to the forums, Debbie, and thank you for your USAF service! [:)]
  • Nurse DebbieNurse Debbie Member Posts: 61 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We are kinda in the same situation. We too park our F-450 with the stock trailer on the side of the road. Slows traffic considerably.
  • A J ChristA J Christ Member Posts: 7,534
    edited November -1
    Put a donut shop in the yard. When the HOT light comes on, you'll have all the cops within 10 miles on the way. Should solve that problem, except the cops will be speeding, of course they are professionals so they do it safely.
  • redhead71redhead71 Member Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    spike strips work quite well also, i agree with parking a vehicle out on the road way
  • Nurse DebbieNurse Debbie Member Posts: 61 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by A J Christ
    Put a donut shop in the yard. When the HOT light comes on, you'll have all the cops within 10 miles on the way. Should solve that problem, except the cops will be speeding, of course they are professionals so they do it safely.



    Now this just might work.
  • soopsoop Member Posts: 4,633
    edited November -1
    I have kin that has a farm on a country road.He throws cow pies in the road to slow down traffic.If they hit it ,they have to wash it off.If they are going slow,they can drive around it. Works after awhile.
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
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    Edit: I know how to build EFPs if you're interested in going the fatal route.... They're quite effective, and if you hook an IR sensor up to it, you don't even need to be around for it to work.

    Anyone can build one from stuff you can get at a variety of home improvement and sporting goods stores.
  • rcrxmike_2rcrxmike_2 Member Posts: 3,275
    edited November -1
    If you can hear them coming, and get to the road, Do what I do: Slowly walk to the shoulder. act you're gonna keep goin
  • k_townmank_townman Member Posts: 3,588
    edited November -1
    Contact your county commissioners and see what can be done to force the drivers to stay within the speed limit. I think speed bumps are going to be your best bet.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    If you figure it out let me know!

    I have had the same problem on our street (posted 25mph) as long as I have lived here.

    Sherriff refuses to do anything about it and state police say it is a sherriff's matter.
  • mjbmxzmjbmxz Member Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How bout find an old cannon use it as a decoration, but point it at the road?
  • searcher5searcher5 Member Posts: 13,511
    edited November -1
    My cousin used to toss half a dozen cobble roicks out in the road. About the size of a softball. People soon got to slowing down to avoid them.
  • Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by k_townman
    Contact your county commissioners and see what can be done to force the drivers to stay within the speed limit. I think speed bumps are going to be your best bet.


    For an effective and cheap set of speed bumps, just throw a few bags of redi-mix on the road - kinda like a maze - after a couple of rains, they will turn solid, and there ya go.

    Simple, cheap, effective.

    Be sure to let your neighbors know.

    Or not.

    Doug

    * spelling
  • big truckerbig trucker Member Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Build your own speed humps. Cut a ditch across the road. Or punji sticks.[}:)]
  • jeffb1911jeffb1911 Member Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Put a sign out saying speed trap ahead....or paint a sign to look like a patrol car and put it out a few times. If you know any Highway Patrol guys, let them know about it so they can help "meet their quota".
  • trc313trc313 Member Posts: 3,475
    edited November -1
    If you are having speeders and are worried about wrecks why would you park a vehicle in the road?? That seems like you are contributing to the problem.When you wake up one morning to find someone has ran into your vehicle then what?
    Why slow them down? If you speed them up you will get to the conclussion you want alot faster! After they all total out their vehicles problem will be solved.


    Of course a strategically placed cinderblock will do wonders[:0]
  • DBMJR1DBMJR1 Member Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you place anything in the road, and cause a wreck, you will lose the farm to a city lawyer.

    Improvised explosive devices are similarly to be avoided.

    If you park a vehicle there, make darned sure it is parked completely legally, or litigation will be in your future.

    I like the sign ideas.

    If people have run through your yard, you can place 4x4's at a 45 degree angle, slanted away from the road, about eight inches above ground. Make sure they are well within your property line.

    Cars drive into your yard, but never leave!
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    Jersey Bumpers work great.[:0]
  • firechieffirechief Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guns-n-painthorses
    Tell you how I solved the problem of speeders on our gravel road. I just parked my truck and trailer on the side of the road, across from my mailbox. It's amazing to see how people will slow down when they think they might wreck their own car/truck. Never once have I had the sheriff out about the parking either!


    got guns?


    I tried to do this and when parking it almost got hit head on. I let it set there a couple of days and it didn't slow them down. I noticed that a lot of the speeders are young kids.
  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 31,909 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If its really bad you can make your own speed bump.....sort of by digging a good size pot-hole. I bet they slow down when they are "jarred" by a big ol' hole.
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  • firechieffirechief Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was told that the county owns 20' or so from the center of the road, so I do have to be careful of putting anything like 4x4's close to the road. When we sit oitside and I see or hear them coming I do go out by the road, but it doesn't slow them down. I have even hollered at a few and had one gut come back to threaten me. He was a young punk and I let him know it would be a mistake for him to challenge me. I think I am going to have to go to a meeting and have the commissioners give me a solution. They have the authority to have speed limit signs put up.
  • Colt SuperColt Super Member Posts: 31,007
    edited November -1
    They'll pay as much attention to speed limit signs as I do.

    Doug
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,093 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The placement of river rock, half buried in the road comes to mind. Just make sure nobody see you place them.

    If the county comes out and takes them, just wait a couple of months and put them back. Make sure they stick out enough to act as a speed bump.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket? Call your county and see if they will put up slow childrens signs along with speed limit signs. Send them a certified letter return receipt.
  • Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket? Call your county and see if they will put up slow childrens signs along with speed limit signs. Send them a certified letter return receipt.
    each county has a law of how fast you can drive on a non-posted road. Remember ignorance of the law is no excuse [xx(].

    How about you just write down some license plate numbers and go pay a visit to their parents? Might work a lot better than jeopardizing someones safety with improvised speed bumps or i.e.d.'s lol
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still think a strategically placed and camouflaged EFP would certainly cause people to avoid that road.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket? Call your county and see if they will put up slow childrens signs along with speed limit signs. Send them a certified letter return receipt.
    each county has a law of how fast you can drive on a non-posted road. Remember ignorance of the law is no excuse [xx(].

    How about you just write down some license plate numbers and go pay a visit to their parents? Might work a lot better than jeopardizing someones safety with improvised speed bumps or i.e.d.'s lol





    What fantasy world do you live in? County roads are posted around here, could be 25-50 mph
  • Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket? Call your county and see if they will put up slow childrens signs along with speed limit signs. Send them a certified letter return receipt.
    each county has a law of how fast you can drive on a non-posted road. Remember ignorance of the law is no excuse [xx(].

    How about you just write down some license plate numbers and go pay a visit to their parents? Might work a lot better than jeopardizing someones safety with improvised speed bumps or i.e.d.'s lol





    What fantasy world do you live in? County roads are posted around here, could be 25-50 mph
    Lol, it is not a fantasy world, it is reality. Perhaps instead of trying some lame flame you should do some research. All counties that I am aware of have a law stating max speed for unposted roads. Do yourself a favor and read before you attack
  • storm6490storm6490 Member Posts: 8,010
    edited November -1
    some of the old school fish finders set off a radar signal. you can wire them up to a small motorcycle battery and put them in a ruck sack for easy placement in the woods near the road. speeders most always have a detector and dont know how to use it. this will make them paranoid.

    bribe your cops, bring in a ton of cookies or cake and coffee for them and tell them where you live. when they appreciate your treats, mention your road and how many people speed there.. maybe bring your kids with to see the cops.

    if you place reflective markerson top of white painted post on both sides of the road, people will think they are hauling * and will slow down. its a psych trick they use in dangerous areas. space them out about fifteen yards apart. sure you could find this online somewhere.


    and finally, if nothing else works. dump solvent on the road and kiss yuour nice seal coated road goodbye and say hello to pot holes and slow country roads.
  • SpartacusSpartacus Member Posts: 14,415
    edited November -1
    I like the idea about some big rocks in the road. potholes sounds good to me too.
    or you can do what I do;
    sit on the front porch with a cooler full of beverages and some good music, and shoot out their tires with a 303 enfield. use milsurp FMJ, works better than soft points!
  • Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
    edited November -1
    http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-44969.html
    http://www.expertlaw.com/library/traffic_tickets/speeding_ticket.html
    quote:Proper Notice of the Speed Limit
    A common point of defense to a speeding violation is that there was not proper notice of the speed limit. For example, the speed limit sign might have been hidden by foliage, or may not have been posted in compliance with state or local regulation. Please note that every jurisdiction has default speed limits for unposted roads. Before you raise the defense that a given road appeared to be unposted, you should check to see the consequences of proving your argument to the court. If the default speed limit is 35 miles per hour, and you were ticketed for driving 40 mph, even if successfully proved your defense may nonetheless result in your being convicted for speeding.

    http://www.orion.lib.mi.us/township/supervisor/supervis.html
    quote:In Michigan, even unposted roads have established speed limits, known as "prima facie" speed limits. They are:
    Residential and business streets: Where no speed limit is posted, the prima facie speed limit on paved or gravel residential streets and streets in business districts is 25 mph.

    Highways: On highways outside of residential or business districts, if no speed limit is posted, the prima facie speed limit is 55 mph.

    Keep looking for yourself at legit government sites, it is there for your reading pleasure in every state, and every county
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,093 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket? Call your county and see if they will put up slow childrens signs along with speed limit signs. Send them a certified letter return receipt.
    each county has a law of how fast you can drive on a non-posted road. Remember ignorance of the law is no excuse [xx(].

    How about you just write down some license plate numbers and go pay a visit to their parents? Might work a lot better than jeopardizing someones safety with improvised speed bumps or i.e.d.'s lol





    What fantasy world do you live in? County roads are posted around here, could be 25-50 mph


    Around here, as you enter each county, there is a speed limit sign that states what the speed limit is unless posted otherwise. That's what they are referring to. Also he may consider having the county come out and place speed limit signs. But that will only work for the honest folk.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by Todesengel
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket? Call your county and see if they will put up slow childrens signs along with speed limit signs. Send them a certified letter return receipt.
    each county has a law of how fast you can drive on a non-posted road. Remember ignorance of the law is no excuse [xx(].

    How about you just write down some license plate numbers and go pay a visit to their parents? Might work a lot better than jeopardizing someones safety with improvised speed bumps or i.e.d.'s lol





    What fantasy world do you live in? County roads are posted around here, could be 25-50 mph


    Around here, as you enter each county, there is a speed limit sign that states what the speed limit is unless posted otherwise. That's what they are referring to. Also he may consider having the county come out and place speed limit signs. But that will only work for the honest folk.


    He didn't read that !!!
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket?All state's traffic codes - including your's - establish the speed limit for all roads where no speed limit signs are actually posted, with different limits established depending upon the type of roadway (urban, rural, residential, etc.). Otherwise people would be able to run wide open in lots of areas.

    This was undoubtedly stated in your new driver's handbook - even way back then. [:D]
  • Mr. FriendlyMr. Friendly Member Posts: 7,981
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    If it isn't posted how does a driver know how fast to go. How would a police officer ticket?All state's traffic codes - including your's - establish the speed limit for all roads where no speed limit signs are actually posted, with different limits established depending upon the type of roadway (urban, rural, residential, etc.). Otherwise people would be able to run wide open in lots of areas.

    This was undoubtedly stated in your new driver's handbook - even way back then. [:D]
    Now you live in a fantasy land too txs. maybe we can form a support group [V]
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