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NeoBlackdog
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All of the state highways and Interstate 84 that run in Union County, Oregon have been closed down due to blizzard conditions. It was about as bad yesterday as I've ever seen it as far as blowing snow goes. We didn't have much fall but when it did it was coming down sideways! 20+ MPH winds with gusts to 50 and about 18 degrees, at times visibility was less than 50 yards.
Just checked the forecast. It doesn't look particularly good though the wind is dying down and it will be a tad warmer. If you scroll down and look at the hourly forecast for 12:00PM and 1:00PM it says "Ice Pellets" for precipitation... Never seen that before. I wonder what caliber the pellets will be?
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USOR0187
Just checked the forecast. It doesn't look particularly good though the wind is dying down and it will be a tad warmer. If you scroll down and look at the hourly forecast for 12:00PM and 1:00PM it says "Ice Pellets" for precipitation... Never seen that before. I wonder what caliber the pellets will be?
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USOR0187
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We are getting freezing rain here. 1/4-3/8 of an inch so far.
I am having some Bailey's in my coffee. [^]
Do have go to town today in the valley, they got both.
It seems more nasty weather is definitely heading west to east, hunker down and stay warm!
PS may be cloase to my last post power keep going out.
All of the state highways and Interstate 84 that run in Union County, Oregon have been closed down due to blizzard conditions. It was about as bad yesterday as I've ever seen it as far as blowing snow goes. We didn't have much fall but when it did it was coming down sideways! 20+ MPH winds with gusts to 50 and about 18 degrees, at times visibility was less than 50 yards.
Just checked the forecast. It doesn't look particularly good though the wind is dying down and it will be a tad warmer. If you scroll down and look at the hourly forecast for 12:00PM and 1:00PM it says "Ice Pellets" for precipitation... Never seen that before. I wonder what caliber the pellets will be?
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USOR0187
It they are talking about sleet, the pellets will probably be about #6 shot or smaller. [;)]
I may not go after all. This is roads in Eugene.
PS may be cloase to my last post power keep going out.Wow, not that looks Treacherous!!!!!! I wouldn't get out either!!!!!
If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!
It got to single digits here Wednesday through Friday but the current storm is a bit warmer. Too warm, almost. Snow turning to rain and then back to sub-freezing is going to make the roads look like grumyguy's two-lane ice rink.
If I didn't know better, I'd swear this was January...
I'd be putting on my ice skates and having a swell time!![8D]
We have a couple of feet of fresh snow in the Sierras, and a river of "Pineapple Express" rain all the way up to the 8000ft level.
Saw these same conditions back in '97, water coming over the top of the wide open dams, and I-5 a long thin island in the central valley.
The Napa wine country is already flooding, and the Napa River is expected to crest a full 2ft above the record. The Truckee River is expected to start flooding Reno this evening.
quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
All of the state highways and Interstate 84 that run in Union County, Oregon have been closed down due to blizzard conditions. It was about as bad yesterday as I've ever seen it as far as blowing snow goes. We didn't have much fall but when it did it was coming down sideways! 20+ MPH winds with gusts to 50 and about 18 degrees, at times visibility was less than 50 yards.
Just checked the forecast. It doesn't look particularly good though the wind is dying down and it will be a tad warmer. If you scroll down and look at the hourly forecast for 12:00PM and 1:00PM it says "Ice Pellets" for precipitation... Never seen that before. I wonder what caliber the pellets will be?
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USOR0187
It they are talking about sleet, the pellets will probably be about #6 shot or smaller. [;)]
Actually, they were about the size of #4 shot and they were actually little ice pellets, not sleet or hail. Looked like raindrops that froze on the way down.
I was a bit surprised that the weather weenies called it as close as they did today. The weather pretty much followed their forecast for a change. It was plenty treacherous on the roads, too. I had to work or I would have stayed home by the fire.
Interesting. In the areas where I grew up (NE Texas/SE Oklahoma/Arkansas/SW Missouri) those little ice pellets were called sleet. I had a college roommate from the Pacific Northwest who used the word for a mixture of rain and snow. This is also the British usage. I'm curious how the two meanings are distributed in the U. S.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
actually in the PNW there is sleet, freezing rain, and then there is scraupple...best description is small white pellets resembling laundry detergent clumps stuck together. all white no translucentse.. the weather conditions that form this scraupple varies from the summer hailstorm" type to the winter blizzard type, but generally associated with precipe at or near freezing with large fluffy snowflakes soon to follow
I've always referred to that as corn snow.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
https://www.inverse.com/article/23243-sleet-freezing-rain-graupel-diamond-dust-precipitation-snow-definition
As a way to standardize weather reports, meteorologists and pilots use METAR codes to distinguish between precipitation types. Designed to be short and sweet, snow becomes SN, rain becomes RA, and drizzle is DZ. Winter, in particular, brings strange things falling from the clouds. Here's your guide to getting the names right.
Sleet
Americans call this sleet, but most everyone else call it ice pellets.
Sleet is probably the most confusing of the precipitations, because its definition changes depending on where you are in the world. In most Commonwealth countries, including England and Canada, sleet refers to a wet snow, or a mix of rain and snow (RASN). America, always daring to be different, defines sleet as ice pellets (PL). Ice pellets are formed when snow that forms high up in the atmosphere melts as it comes through a layer of warmer air below. A third layer of air, this time cold again, then refreezes what had been small water droplets in pellets that fall to the ground, bouncing off hard surfaces on contact.
Graupel
A graupel shower is like a miniature snowball fight.
Graupel (GS), also known as soft hail or snow pellets, forms when snowflakes encounter tiny droplets of supercooled water as they fall. This water immediately freezes and binds to the flake, and if this happens enough times, it stops looking like a snowflake and starts to look like a tiny, squishy snow ball.
Snow Grains
Snow grains (SG) are like baby graupel, and they are sometimes referred to as granular snow. Because these flakes are less built up than ones we'd call graupel, they tend to be flat and elongated rather than fully round. "Descriptions of the physical structure of snow grains vary widely and include very fine, simple ice crystals; tiny, complex snow crystals; small, compact bundles of rime; and particles with a rime core and a fine glaze coating," according to the American Meteorological Society's glossary of meteorology. One telltale sign - they don't bounce or shatter when they hit the ground.
Diamond Dust
Like the dust of real diamonds, diamond dust is rare and sparkly. It's similar to ice fog, another awesome frozen phenomenon, except in an ice fog the frozen particles are suspended in air, whereas in diamond dust they tumble gently to Earth. Meteorologists refer to this precipitation by the less poetic term, ice crystals (IC).
Freezing Rain
Freezing rain is beautiful and treacherous.
Freezing rain (FZRA) looks like rain, but it's a lot more dangerous. It occurs when snow melts to rain as it passes through warmer air, then cools off to freezing or even below freezing temperatures before hitting the ground. Water that is still liquid despite below freezing temperature is called supercooled - this happens pretty easily in very cold weather, so long as it is free of contaminants and free of a crystal nucleus to catalyze the transition from liquid to solid.
The trouble comes when the supercooled liquid hits the ground, or a tree branch, or a powerline. The water will instantly freeze, encasing anything it hits in ice. If enough freezing rain falls, tree branches will start collapsing under their weight, and take out the powerlines with them. Roads and sidewalks become like skating rinks. In December 2008 an ice storm in the Northwestern U.S. left 1.25 million homes and businesses without power.
Freezing drizzle
Freezing drizzle (FZDZ) is to freezing rain what normal drizzle is to normal rain.
Hail
Hail (GR) is the weirdo of frozen precipitation, because it happens almost always in the summer time, during thunderstorms. Hail needs warm, wet air and strong updrafts. The updrafts carry water in high levels of the atmosphere, where it's very cold and freezes instantly. After freezing it will fall, and might get caught in the same updraft again, gaining in size each time through the cycle. The stronger that vertical force, the heavier the hail can get before it tumbles to Earth. That's why you can get major hail storms in strange places, like the desert in Dubai.
I figured there is about 28000 lbs of snow on my shop roof. That worries me some.
Baker city here. a foot of snow last night on top of about 18". Not much wind though. The weather man says 4 below tonight. I know this country well I say closer to 12 below. We haven't had a day above freezing since Dec. 1st. One day was 24 below and another day was 19 below. Today it got up to 24 and it felt warm. I shoveled snow all day and plowed. I had to dig the car out of the driveway once. Three deer stay here every night. They are having it rough so I feed them a little wheat and sunflower seeds. I keep a generator ready just in case.
I figured there is about 28000 lbs of snow on my shop roof. That worries me some.
Dang, Jerry! You best figure out a way to get that load off your shop or you're gonna have a serious issue! Can you warm the inside enough to get it to melt off or do you have big eaves that will stay frozen and make ice dams? There've been lots of roofs fail in the last few days, I'd hate to hear of yours being one of them.