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And fiery auto crashes
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jim rau...SIR..then with your experience what would you recommend for carry for me...73, smaller hands and a load of ritis all over ..tried a makarov 9mm but it still hurt..so wonder if i am back to the 380 or 22 mag ???minimal....have a charter 32 mag revolver small, and eaa compact 38 super. grip is a little thick. bersa da/sa 380 easy hold ...something easy on a back pocket, belt and car carry on trip... thanx
32 keltec....will kill...with eye shot....
The 45 comment is wrong. I have first hand experience in RVN with a 45 and they are not nearly as good as the 'myth' would imply![;)] Not to mention 40+ years in LE. The 45 reputation is mostly myth and misinformation.[:)]
bullhockey, everyone knows that a bullet 2.5mm larger than a 9mm can turn a shoulder wound into instant death, 2 shots to the heart with a 9mm cannot hold a candle to a .45 in the thigh
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
The 45 comment is wrong. I have first hand experience in RVN with a 45 and they are not nearly as good as the 'myth' would imply![;)] Not to mention 40+ years in LE. The 45 reputation is mostly myth and misinformation.[:)]
bullhockey, everyone knows that a bullet 2.5mm larger than a 9mm can turn a shoulder wound into instant death, 2 shots to the heart with a 9mm cannot hold a candle to a .45 in the thigh
I once had a guy in a gun store tell me that a .45 will rip entirely through an engine block and still have more than enough energy to go fully through a man. He said this with a perfectly straight face.
Maybe they made them a lot more powerful back in the day. . .
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
The 45 comment is wrong. I have first hand experience in RVN with a 45 and they are not nearly as good as the 'myth' would imply![;)] Not to mention 40+ years in LE. The 45 reputation is mostly myth and misinformation.[:)]
bullhockey, everyone knows that a bullet 2.5mm larger than a 9mm can turn a shoulder wound into instant death, 2 shots to the heart with a 9mm cannot hold a candle to a .45 in the thigh
A 9mm may kill. Always wounds.
But a .45 acp kills the soul of everything it hits.
I once tried reloading some .45 acp without wearing gloves.
Got all weak and wobbly just from skin to awesomeness contact.
jim rau...SIR..then with your experience what would you recommend for carry for me...73, smaller hands and a load of ritis all over ..tried a makarov 9mm but it still hurt..so wonder if i am back to the 380 or 22 mag ???minimal....have a charter 32 mag revolver small, and eaa compact 38 super. grip is a little thick. bersa da/sa 380 easy hold ...something easy on a back pocket, belt and car carry on trip... thanx
What I teach and recommend to those of small stature and/or those with weakness in their hands is a j-frame 'size' 38 revolver loaded with 148 gr wad cutters! The recoil is about as light as it gets with a gun that can 'stop the fight' (a 148 gr wad cutter will cause A LOT of blood loss if properly placed, and that is what it is all about)[;)] and if trigger pull is an issue get the ruger LCR! [:)]Hope that helped.
PS: If you still can't handle that get a 22 stoked with solids. I have a friend who has some real wrist problems and that is what I have him carrying. SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING![:D]
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
The 45 comment is wrong. I have first hand experience in RVN with a 45 and they are not nearly as good as the 'myth' would imply![;)] Not to mention 40+ years in LE. The 45 reputation is mostly myth and misinformation.[:)]
bullhockey, everyone knows that a bullet 2.5mm larger than a 9mm can turn a shoulder wound into instant death, 2 shots to the heart with a 9mm cannot hold a candle to a .45 in the thigh
A 9mm may kill. Always wounds.
But a .45 acp kills the soul of everything it hits.
I once tried reloading some .45 acp without wearing gloves.
Got all weak and wobbly just from skin to awesomeness contact.
See what I mean!!!![;)]
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
The 45 comment is wrong. I have first hand experience in RVN with a 45 and they are not nearly as good as the 'myth' would imply![;)] Not to mention 40+ years in LE. The 45 reputation is mostly myth and misinformation.[:)]
bullhockey, everyone knows that a bullet 2.5mm larger than a 9mm can turn a shoulder wound into instant death, 2 shots to the heart with a 9mm cannot hold a candle to a .45 in the thigh
A 9mm may kill. Always wounds.
But a .45 acp kills the soul of everything it hits.
I once tried reloading some .45 acp without wearing gloves.
Got all weak and wobbly just from skin to awesomeness contact.
i had to quarantine all my .45's to a dedicated safe to avoid any further gamma radiation contact that makes them turn into a large green projectile when provoked
but in all fairness i have to quarantine all my Glocks before they just decide to turn on me and kill me or just my foot, god knows they are itching to, little bastages just cannot be trusted
quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
The 45 comment is wrong. I have first hand experience in RVN with a 45 and they are not nearly as good as the 'myth' would imply![;)] Not to mention 40+ years in LE. The 45 reputation is mostly myth and misinformation.[:)]
bullhockey, everyone knows that a bullet 2.5mm larger than a 9mm can turn a shoulder wound into instant death, 2 shots to the heart with a 9mm cannot hold a candle to a .45 in the thigh
A 9mm may kill. Always wounds.
But a .45 acp kills the soul of everything it hits.
I once tried reloading some .45 acp without wearing gloves.
Got all weak and wobbly just from skin to awesomeness contact.
i had to quarantine all my .45's to a dedicated safe to avoid any further gamma radiation contact that makes them turn into a large green projectile when provoked
but in all fairness i have to quarantine all my Glocks before they just decide to turn on me and kill me or just my foot, god knows they are itching to, little bastages just cannot be trusted
Tell it.
I suspect .45 acp rounds deteriorate from lead into kryptonite. It's a chemistry thing.
Whoever first chambered a Glock in .45 acp; I'm pretty sure he's ushering in the apocalypse.
Thankfully, I have a 1911. My neighborhood is safe. I can drop 8 Russian tanks or ICBM's. Then I have to reload.
According to Germany and the almighty Luger 9mm is all you need..
That's what the higher-ups thought. But any German Soldier that could get his hands on 1911a1 .45 ACP in WWI and WWII, would get rid of his broomstick handle and start using the 1911a1
Anyway you know that he's not a member of this forum, we all know it takes two to the chest and one to head to kill somebody. Not just one to the chest and one to the Head
So has good lawyer could point this out and get his charges reduced to assault with a deadly weapon, not attempted murder. Because everybody knows it takes two to the chest and 1 to the head to kill someone. Especially with just a 9mm
Put one in the liver or the heart. The kidney is a good shot also.
Caliber doesn't really matter its all about bullet placement and penetration every thing else is angles dancing on a pin head.
quote:Originally posted by wpageabc
According to Germany and the almighty Luger 9mm is all you need..
That's what the higher-ups thought. But any German Soldier that could get his hands on 1911a1 .45 ACP in WWI and WWII, would get rid of his broomstick handle and start using the 1911a1
Anyway you know that he's not a member of this forum, we all know it takes two to the chest and one to head to kill somebody. Not just one to the chest and one to the Head
"The Pistol"....James Jones.....makes the 45 special....myself preferred a 30 cal. carbine...
According to Germany and the almighty Luger 9mm is all you need..
Pretty sure they have not won a WW yet...[;)][}:)]
quote:Originally posted by spasmcreek
jim rau...SIR..then with your experience what would you recommend for carry for me...73, smaller hands and a load of ritis all over ..tried a makarov 9mm but it still hurt..so wonder if i am back to the 380 or 22 mag ???minimal....have a charter 32 mag revolver small, and eaa compact 38 super. grip is a little thick. bersa da/sa 380 easy hold ...something easy on a back pocket, belt and car carry on trip... thanx
What I teach and recommend to those of small stature and/or those with weakness in their hands is a j-frame 'size' 38 revolver loaded with 148 gr wad cutters! The recoil is about as light as it gets with a gun that can 'stop the fight' (a 148 gr wad cutter will cause A LOT of blood loss if properly placed, and that is what it is all about)[;)] and if trigger pull is an issue get the ruger LCR! [:)]Hope that helped.
PS: If you still can't handle that get a 22 stoked with solids. I have a friend who has some real wrist problems and that is what I have him carrying. SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING![:D]
Don't underestimate the .38!
A number of years back (8-9?) there was a kid around here that had issues. He was a black kid in a mostly white town and had been in trouble with the law for years. He was out with his 'posse' one night and declared to them that "someone is gonna die tonight!". A while later a fella walking home from the bar ran afoul of this group of kids and the black kid shot him point blank with a .38 Special loaded with wadcutters. Shot him just for the hell of it! One went right to left right in front of his ribcage and tore up both pectoral muscles. The other went right to left through both thighs and tore out the femoral arteries in both legs. The bullet was stopped by his pants and fell out on the sidewalk while the medics were getting him to the ambulance. The doc in the ER told my wife that there was nothing to be done. Even if they had had him on the table when he got shot there was no way to repair the damage done quick enough to save his life.
The little thug is now doing life in prison. He should be feeding worms, IMNSHO.