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We need a new cartridge.

bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2011 in General Discussion
For better defense.
My suggestion is a ~11.4 MM size
A bullet weight of ~180 to 230 grains
A straight walled case, rimless about 7/8" long
An overall length of around 1-1/4"
A MV of 850 FPS or so.


Do you think it might work?

We could call it the GB 11 Screamer.

What gun should it be chambered for, the Glock????

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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    For better defense.
    My suggestion is a ~11.4 MM size
    A bullet weight of ~180 to 230 grains
    A straight walled case, rimless about 7/8" long
    An overall length of around 1-1/4"
    A MV of 850 FPS or so.


    Do you think it might work?

    We could call it the GB 11 Screamer.

    What gun should it be chambered for, the Glock????



    Probably wouldn't work all that well. Too slow, too heavy. I would think that if a pistol were created for such a round, say in 1911, it would not have lasted through to the end of WWI.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

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    RTKBARTKBA Member Posts: 331 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    For better defense.
    My suggestion is a ~11.4 MM size
    A bullet weight of ~180 to 230 grains
    A straight walled case, rimless about 7/8" long
    An overall length of around 1-1/4"
    A MV of 850 FPS or so.


    Do you think it might work?

    We could call it the GB 11 Screamer.

    What gun should it be chambered for, the Glock????

    wouldn't that be basically a .45acp
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    Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,309 ******
    edited November -1
    825_express_mag.jpg
    Given the dearth of new big bore hunting pistol cartridges in recent years, we at Guns and Shooting Online felt that it was time that we became proactive in order to jump start the market. Wimpy efforts such as the .475 Linebaugh and .500 S&W may be okay for mouse guns and girley men, but real men need a new cartridge into which we can sink our teeth.

    Our cartridge design team spent months surveying the market and concluded that the new cartridge should be between .800 and .850 caliber. This is because big game has, undeniably, become progressively harder to kill during the last century.

    Perhaps a brief handgun cartridge history can best illustrate the point. From the last quarter of the 19th Century through the first quarter of the 20th Century, standard revolver cartridges such as the .45 Long Colt (the "world's most powerful revolver cartridge" at that time) and the relatively flat shooting .38 Special High Speed (loaded to maximum average pressures--MAP--up to about 20,000 psi) were considered to be all that was required for any handgun purpose afield. However, by the mid-1920s game had gotten harder to kill and the standard velocity handgun cartridges were no longer sufficient for the task, even at very close range.

    (an excerpt stolen from http://www.chuckhawks.com/825_magnum.htm)
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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    m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    looks about right...been working on a 444/22lr......
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    For better defense.
    My suggestion is a ~11.4 MM size
    A bullet weight of ~180 to 230 grains
    A straight walled case, rimless about 7/8" long
    An overall length of around 1-1/4"
    A MV of 850 FPS or so.


    Do you think it might work?

    We could call it the GB 11 Screamer.

    What gun should it be chambered for, the Glock????



    Probably wouldn't work all that well. Too slow, too heavy. I would think that if a pistol were created for such a round, say in 1911, it would not have lasted through to the end of WWI.

    Yea, you are probably right Don, plus chambering it for a plastic gun with no safety would be a market failure too....
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    roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,131 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes
    Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
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    jeffb1911jeffb1911 Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i remember reading about the 7.62 mm ought six many years ago.....
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    SWAT 50SWAT 50 Member Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What a bunch of bright folks on here tonight.

    Of course it is a .45 acp. Someone made a joke OK.
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    armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,483 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by m88.358win
    [:D]

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    Many would say that's illegal for deer.
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    Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    .17-378?? [:D]

    quote:Originally posted by m88.358win
    [:D]

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    MrOrangeMrOrange Member Posts: 3,012
    edited November -1
    Beat ya to it, many years ago, with my propriety 11.5mm Magnum.

    This awesome wildcat used modified .45ACP brass - modified mind you! - and sooper-secret technically advanced loading techniques (colloquially known as "tip the can") to produce ballistics that let a user compete in a "Magnum Pistol Match" at a local club.

    Ya see, the so-called club officers at that time were a bunch of fillintheblanks who decided that even though industry standard loads in .45ACP met the minor power floor for club magnum matches, they wouldn't allow anyone to compete without a gun that had the "magnum" designator.


    And yes it was hard not to laugh at the clowns who were picking up my brass behind my back and scurrying off to a dark corner to examine it.


    ETA: Forgot to mention the custom "11.5 Magnum" lettering on the slide; red fingernail polish!
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    grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 53,466
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    quote:Originally posted by m88.358win
    [:D]

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    .22-30mm [:D]


    5.7 mm XPress
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    gesshotsgesshots Member Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by m88.358win
    [:D]

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    Can you say - OVERBORE!!!!!
    [;)][:D][:D]
    It's being willing. I found out early that most men, regardless of cause or need, aren't willing. They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull the trigger. I won't. ~ J.B. Books
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