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45 ACP - Witness Steel or Ruger P90

MWRevanMWRevan Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
edited September 2010 in General Discussion
Ok, I got talked out of the Taurus PT945 in my last post.

quote:This is the second time I've decided I want a 45 acp pistol. The first time I ended up buying a Glock 29 instead because I fell in love with the ballistics of the 10mm cartridge - especially the true 10mm hot loads. Anyway, I still want a 45 acp. I already have a polymer frame gun so this time I want all steel. I am definitely on a budget. I do not really care for full size frames - I'm not a big man. And this time I do not want a double action only pistol. I want single / double action with a hammer. So I have pretty much narrowed my choices to the Witness Compact Steel Wonder or the Taurus PT945. I have heard very good reviews of the witness line, but I have also heard of cracked frames and slides. On the other hand, Taurus isn't exactly top of the line, and I have read mixed reviews on this brand. I do like the fact that its stainless, though.

What I want to know is which one would perform better and last longer in the long run. Please don't offer suggestions for other calibers nor for a pistol that is outside of my price range. (Round about $500 plus the FFL fees / taxes / shipping.)

Any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks, Michael

So now the question is which would be better - the Witness Steel 45 ACP or the Ruger P90? Any and all help is much appreciated.

Thanks, Michael [:D]
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  • iwannausernameiwannausername Member Posts: 7,131
    edited November -1
    Witness, get the caliber conversion kit(s).
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  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Of the 2, I'd go with the P90. Both are decent guns but the Witness is HEAVY.

    You really ought to look at a 1911. I and many others on here have had good luck with cheap Rock Island 1911's ($375 to $425).

    If you have more money to blow ($550 range) look at the Springfield GI or Para Expert.

    If you are looking at used 45's check out the Glock 21 ($450 range). There are deals to be had out there on them.
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  • NOTPARSNOTPARS Member Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have fired both and have the Witness. The Witness is more accurate but heavy and the recoil is stout. The 1911 frame and so forth don't deliver as much felt recoil and either does the Ruger P90. I have the compact and it is great for hiking in cooler weather. Easy to conceal.
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  • 4406v4406v Member Posts: 317 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I won a P90 .45acp at a gun raffle I like it alot and it shoots as good as I do.I also went out and bought a Smith & Wesson pd1911 also in .45acp it shoots and feels alot better than the Ruger but at $1000 IT SHOULD!!!

    The Ruger is a great inexpensive pistol.
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  • rob223rob223 Member Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not in .45 acp, but a friend and I went out shooting one time with my Witness 9mm and his Ruger P-89. We shot them and shoot each others guns. Funny thing was, I liked his better and he liked mine. We nver traded though, I sold mine. My son bought a P-90 and I bought a P-89 later on. They are good guns (Ruger), accurate reliable. My other son has a 9mm Witness. I don't like the tall sites on them though.
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  • fastcarsgofastfastcarsgofast Member Posts: 7,179
    edited November -1
    I'd get the Ruger.
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  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by eboydell
    quote:Any and all help is much appreciated.

    Who in the Hell makes WITNESS?
    Oh! Personally, I hate Ruger! But I was stupid enough to buy a Taurus...Hell, I may start dating Colored Girls![:D]


    Questionable ethnic remarks aside, Witness guns are made in Italy by Tanfoglio, which is a well-respected gunmaker in Italy's "gun valley".

    Tanfoglio has been in business for about 60 years. Other than European-American arms, other American importers of Tanfoglio guns included FIE and Excam. Tanfoglio guns are more popular in Europe than in the USA.

    The Witness itself is sort of a modified CZ-75. Its designed to run as a modular platform for easy caliber conversion, and it has a superior "dead-man" type trigger safety that doesn't compromise the trigger pull quality as much as the series-80 like one on the CZ-75B does.

    IMO these are a performance bargain, in terms of what you get for what they cost.
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  • Tech141Tech141 Member Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i'VE GOT THREE wITNESSES - 2 FULL FRAME .45acp, AND ONE 'COMPACT' (Friggin' CAPS Lock...) 9mm. All are Steel. I like 'em just fine. They shoot Great and don't cost an 'arm-and-a-leg'.

    Don't mistake "Inexpensive" with "Cheap". EAA Witnesses are great firearms for the price. Plus with the caliber-conversion-kits, you can switch calibers pretty easily.
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  • OdawgpOdawgp Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    keep in mind the TZ/EEA pistols while great are hard to find any aftermarket parts and accessories for. Holsters will be difficult to find and extra mag a little less so

    below is a link to the only holster I could find that would fit the newer EEA pistols (the older ones didn't have an accessories rail on the frame the new ones do)
    http://www.henningshootsguns.com/shop/holsters.html

    I debated buying one for a long time opted to go with something a little less exotic

    they are great guns just remember that parts will be hard to find
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  • DRP-AZDRP-AZ Member Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Had a P90 years ago and it was incredibly accurate and well built. The 9mms and 40s I shot weren't nearly so.

    As far as boydell's sense of humor: 4 separate posts featuring an over-the-hill faux-metal 80s hair band and a no-talent anorexic-looking skank serve to prove that he doesn't take himself or his appalling lack of taste too awfully seriously.
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  • wild cat manwild cat man Member Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have p90 shoots great would not trade mine for theirs
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  • 7.62x39Lover7.62x39Lover Member Posts: 3,939 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by eboydell
    quote:Any and all help is much appreciated.

    Who in the Hell makes WITNESS?
    Oh! Personally, I hate Ruger! But I was stupid enough to buy a Taurus...Hell, I may start dating Colored Girls![:D]


    EAA makes Witness.
    European American Armory
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  • realspeedrealspeed Member Posts: 6,335
    edited November -1
    be done with it and get a hi-point! great shooting very accurate, conversation piece... i can go on and on. i curently prolly own 15-20 hi-point and i love them all more than you can imagine
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