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Cousin gave me these pistols
Oakie
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I have no ideal what they are. I couldn't find to much on them, but will look closer when i go back to pick them up at the cabin. I didn't have my glasses with me. I was so excited that she gave them to me, I took these pictures and left them in the safe up there[:o)] I will go get them in a few weeks. Anyone have any idea what they are???? One looked like a 32 caliber or a 25. Oakie PS, I know they are just wall hangers or junk, but I thought they were kinda cool. Going to hang them on the wall in my gun room.
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#3 looks a whole lot like a Continental suicide special that I have. Mine does not have the fluted cylinder.
The short cylinder one looks like a Philp Welby copy of the S&W
#1 or #2. about 1863 to 1865.
The last one looks like a Hopkins and Allen Defender model 84.
about 1889-1900.
Pics of both sides help me make better id's.
Cylinders could be had either fluted or smooth in calibers .22, .32 and .38. Mine was a .22LR, but I only fired .22 Shorts in it a few times.
Defenders often have the model name on the top strap.
The one on the left on the bottom pic looks like a copy of a S&W Model 1-1/2
That is what I was thinking too...it would look a lot more like a Smith if the barrel was the right color.
the bottom two were of a very common type. (that hammer and trigger) if you wanted something slimmer in the pocket, one derivative was the twist derringer.
who knows. have to take a good look with a magnifying glass. could be anywhere from .22 Short to some oddball .35, any number of small calibers in between, lots of those in that era with interesting features that would give product safety lawyers a heart attack.
the bottom two were of a very common type. (that hammer and trigger) if you wanted something slimmer in the pocket, one derivative was the twist derringer.
EXTRA cool!!![^] I like that'n!!
What cal. is that Bush??
Is it ok if I call you "bush"? Cuz, the whole "master" thing is kinda,,,U know...[;)]
The right hand gun in the second photo reminds me of the Iver Johnson Defender. Only the grip is different from what I owned and have seen. Which were wood grips cut straight where they met the top metal, not curved. Otherwise the shape is the same for the entire gun.
Cylinders could be had either fluted or smooth in calibers .22, .32 and .38. Mine was a .22LR, but I only fired .22 Shorts in it a few times.
Defenders often have the model name on the top strap.
Don't the Iver J's use hexagon barrels???
TAKE THAT BACK! they came both ways, even had the same name and model # of H&A's.[B)]
Just about everyone made a copy of that gun!!![:0]
quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
The right hand gun in the second photo reminds me of the Iver Johnson Defender. Only the grip is different from what I owned and have seen. Which were wood grips cut straight where they met the top metal, not curved. Otherwise the shape is the same for the entire gun.
Cylinders could be had either fluted or smooth in calibers .22, .32 and .38. Mine was a .22LR, but I only fired .22 Shorts in it a few times.
Defenders often have the model name on the top strap.
Don't the Iver J's use hexagon barrels???
TAKE THAT BACK! they came both ways, even had the same name and model # of H&A's.[B)]
Just about everyone made a copy of that gun!!![:0]
Yes, quite right you are! It was a popular design up to about .38 Short Rimfire. Here are photos that show the Defender I owned until a few years ago.
.22 Long [:X]
Exactly...
I thought that was "Freddy" for a sec...LOL[:0]
Liking the parrot head model. Are you going to list them on the auction side?
Not right now, but if I do Joe, I will give it to you. They are worthless junk, but for now, I want to hang them on the wall downstairs. I have some others that are worth some serious money, but dad has not willed them to me yet[:D] He said i have to wait for him to kick the bucket before i get them.[;)] He has a Original Colt from the 1800's model 1 (I think) His collection is worth more then some peoples homes[:0] I have no clue what I am going to do with all his guns and mine when I get to old to shoot. Guess Chris will have one hell of a gun show and sell them off. He stands to inherit over 500 firearms, with some being worth in excess of 20,000 a piece. Some are going to the Cody Museum and some are going to the NRA and some to my niece. It truly is overwhelming. Oakie
babun; What is the lever just above the stock for? De cocker, safety when in SA, with hammer back?
Yeap, safety lever to lock hammer.
Folding triggers are not exactly a safe idea in a handgun.[xx(]
Folding trigger= Belgian scaled down copy of the Royal Irish Constabulary revolver. Look at rear face of cylinder, you will find the ELG in an oval proofmark. Caliber is .320 European Revolver. Smaller than a .32 S&W, it is the same as a .32 Short Colt.
Actually, the RIC revolver had a fixed trigger and triggerguard (and a nasty spur on the trigger that'll bite ya). The folding triggers were more common on the "Velo Dog" type revolvers.
Shoot with caution.[:o)][:o)]