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the old rub and tug
mlincoln
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The other day I'm hanging out with some guys, some I knew rather well and some not so well. We got to talking about Asian women and from there about all the Asian massage parlors in the area. One of them is raided every few months and it makes the news.
A couple of the fellows, one I knew a bit and one I didn't know that well, both married, said they stop by such places once a month or so for a massage and a happy ending. Another guy, unmarried, said he'd gone once or twice, but only when he was out of town on business.
I can honestly say that I was pretty surprised. The two married guys just sort of shrugged about it like it was no big deal, and the unmarried guy laughed about it.
That's prostitution, isn't it? And I've got think if their wives found out they would be none too pleased.
Times change and institutions change. Is the massage and happy ending for married guys an acceptable thing nowadays? Is it widespread? (And I can tell you right now that I don't even have to ask my wife how she'd feel about such a thing. I'd be lucky to be sleeping in the doghouse.)
A couple of the fellows, one I knew a bit and one I didn't know that well, both married, said they stop by such places once a month or so for a massage and a happy ending. Another guy, unmarried, said he'd gone once or twice, but only when he was out of town on business.
I can honestly say that I was pretty surprised. The two married guys just sort of shrugged about it like it was no big deal, and the unmarried guy laughed about it.
That's prostitution, isn't it? And I've got think if their wives found out they would be none too pleased.
Times change and institutions change. Is the massage and happy ending for married guys an acceptable thing nowadays? Is it widespread? (And I can tell you right now that I don't even have to ask my wife how she'd feel about such a thing. I'd be lucky to be sleeping in the doghouse.)
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I have a great wife and wouldn't if I was single.
I wouldn't even consider it!
I have a great wife and wouldn't if I was single.
+100
Wouldn't it just be the scream if you gave out a gift certificate to 'Suzy's Steam 'n Cream'???
I can see it now...$100 gift cert. to 'Thai Rub', all girls over eighteen, and certified clean!
With my luck, I'd be chastised for being in the position to have been on location to buy such a gift certificate, if truth be known.
Oh, but what a gift! A wedding present, perhaps?
Man, am I naughty tonight!
[B)]
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Joe
You need to associate with a different group of fellows.
Well, I think that's what surprised me so much. The one fellow was a bit wild and crazy back awhile ago, but I thought he'd sort of straightened up and was a family man and so forth. The other two I really don't know well.
I suppose if 50% of married people cheat, and I think that number is right, then what I heard really shouldn't be that surprising.
She hasn't been back to that therapist, but I did learn where to press. [;)]
Before we were married, one of Dawnie's friends bought her a massage as a wedding gift. The therapist was male, and he gave Dawnie a "happy ending." He did it subtly, but intentionally, but he didn't touch any of her goodies. There is a place, and it isn't a "private part," that when touched correctly, will produce the desired result.
He put money in her purse, didn't he?
My personal feeling is that it's mallum prohibitum, or is just "wrong" because we have a law against it. Removing for a moment the marriage angle, I feel there's nothing wrong with receiving money for something it's perfectly legal to give away.
Adultery changes the calculus. Then its an example of mallum in se, or something that is inherently wrong regardless of the laws.
It is the way it is, not as we might wish it to be.
I am glad that prostitution is illegal. I would hate to see the disease-ridden skanks I know that do that sort of "work" become legitimate business women.
Adultery is no longer a criminal act, though, and prostitution is.
It is the way it is, not as we might wish it to be.
I am glad that prostitution is illegal. I would hate to see the disease-ridden skanks I know that do that sort of "work" become legitimate business women.
You've just landed yourself in the middle of a circular argument. If the laws were repealed and they became legitimate business women, one could safely speculate that they would be required to maintain health standards similar to those of nevada(ie regular testing for disease) and would then cease to be disease ridden.
Wow, I havent heard those words since True Grit. Matt Damon was playing a texas ranger and discussing it.
It may have been in a movie, but it's still a valid legal concept and a crucially important distinction.
If something is inherently wrong, then the laws against it only serve as a vehicle to assign punishment. When something is inherently wrong, we don't need laws to know it.
When something is only "wrong" because a law says so, you're into an ethical or moral question. Now you have to decide whether you agree with the law and whether or not you intend to follow it.
They would still be drug-addicted skanks, even if disease-free and "legitimate."
Drug addicted is a possibility, but by no means a guarantee. Many street prostitutes are drug addicts first. They end up turning tricks to pay for the drugs.
Skanks, well that's an opinion. If the laws were different and that's how a woman chose to earn her pay, I wouldn't look at her as a skank, but that's just me.
Before we were married, one of Dawnie's friends bought her a massage as a wedding gift. The therapist was male, and he gave Dawnie a "happy ending." He did it subtly, but intentionally, but he didn't touch any of her goodies. There is a place, and it isn't a "private part," that when touched correctly, will produce the desired result.
She hasn't been back to that therapist, but I did learn where to press. [;)]
Would you care to share that location with us so we could make our gals have a happy ending?
For those that think it is wrong just because you think it is wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. But, for those that think it is wrong ONLY because it is ILLEGAL, come on out here to Nevada where you won't face that dilemma. [:D]
So, if you pick up a girl at a club, buy her $20 worth of drinks, followed by a $50 dinner at a nice restaurant, take her to a $80 a seat show, and then give her a $50 necklace, and you guys end up in the sack, which is where you were intending it all to end anyway, it is alright. But, if you don't have the time for all of that and just give her the $200 in cash and you hit the sack, it is wrong? Interesting morality.
For those that think it is wrong just because you think it is wrong, you are entitled to your opinion. But, for those that think it is wrong ONLY because it is ILLEGAL, come on out here to Nevada where you won't face that dilemma. [:D]
Basically the point I was going for....
W.D.
The other day I'm hanging out with some guys, some I knew rather well and some not so well. We got to talking about Asian women and from there about all the Asian massage parlors in the area. One of them is raided every few months and it makes the news.
A couple of the fellows, one I knew a bit and one I didn't know that well, both married, said they stop by such places once a month or so for a massage and a happy ending. Another guy, unmarried, said he'd gone once or twice, but only when he was out of town on business.
I can honestly say that I was pretty surprised. The two married guys just sort of shrugged about it like it was no big deal, and the unmarried guy laughed about it.
That's prostitution, isn't it? And I've got think if their wives found out they would be none too pleased.
Times change and institutions change. Is the massage and happy ending for married guys an acceptable thing nowadays? Is it widespread? (And I can tell you right now that I don't even have to ask my wife how she'd feel about such a thing. I'd be lucky to be sleeping in the doghouse.)
I have no need.... [:D] jus sayin.....
Guys, I've said it befor and I'll say it again. "That's the only thing you can sell rent out all night and still have when you wake up in the morning".[;)]
W.D.
There. Fixed it. [:D]
A picture of an old fat guy in the middle of a "tug"? Yuck. I'll pass. [:D][:D]
Jeez, I'm only 41.
You need to associate with a different group of fellows.
Amen.
On the side of the hip, there is a sort of a pocket where muscles come together. You may have to feel around to find the exact place, but it is a pressure point on a nerve that is attached to the goodies.
Is that is what is meant by "getting some on the side"? Don
I have a good friend and neighbor JOE that does this once a month but if you met his wife you would understand. Mean as a hornet. I dont know why a man would marry a woman he doesnt love and cant stand to be around.
One of the fellows I spoke to pretty much said the same thing. The Mrs. is grumpy and cold and he's tired of pleading for sex.
As far as me looking down on these guys and needing to get a better class of acquaintances, well, I fully admit that cheating on your wife--and getting the special rub qualifies in my book--is wrong indeed. I sure don't do it. At the same time, I am sympathetic to those whose partners have become cold and distant. If a husband is kind and decent and doing his fair share and the wife is constantly not wanting to have sex--well, if he strays I do think it is partly her fault. In a very real sense I think she strayed first: she abandoned the marriage and its essential act of showing love to the other person. All he did is follow her lead.
I have a good friend and neighbor JOE that does this once a month but if you met his wife you would understand. Mean as a hornet. I dont know why a man would marry a woman he doesnt love and cant stand to be around.
I have a feeling she probably wasn't like this before they got hitched.
quote:Originally posted by Oakie
I have a good friend and neighbor JOE that does this once a month but if you met his wife you would understand. Mean as a hornet. I dont know why a man would marry a woman he doesnt love and cant stand to be around.
I have a feeling she probably wasn't like this before they got hitched.
Makes me think of the old werewolf films, moon comes up, and the next thing you know there is hair and fangs everywhere...and a lot of howling....
quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
quote:Originally posted by Oakie
I have a good friend and neighbor JOE that does this once a month but if you met his wife you would understand. Mean as a hornet. I dont know why a man would marry a woman he doesnt love and cant stand to be around.
I have a feeling she probably wasn't like this before they got hitched.
Makes me think of the old werewolf films, moon comes up, and the next thing you know there is hair and fangs everywhere...and a lot of howling....
You know they've found a food that decreases a woman's sex drive 95%. . .
Wedding cake.
quote:Originally posted by woodhog
Torosapo/BTDT; The one next to the Basque restaurant is the best one,IMHO
I've never had to pay for it, and I'm too old and worn out, to start now. [xx(]
Coming out of a bar in Jacksonville NC a "lady" asked me if I wanted a "date". The conversation went like this:
Her - Hey baby, want a date?
Me - No thanks
Her - Oh whats the matter? You gay?
Me - Nah, I just don't think I should pay for something that I can get for free.
Her - (with a smile and a condescending voice) Baby, It's NEVER free. [;)]