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Gun advocates?

rscoleman88rscoleman88 Member Posts: 4,250
edited March 2013 in General Discussion
Seems like a few are pulling the load for many. There are untold number of folks with just a few basic guns that are not for gun control, but don't see themselves as gun advocates either. How do we reach them and get them involved?

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  • 427cobra289427cobra289 Member Posts: 762 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The people of which you speak are plentiful and I wish you luck in your endeavor; if you figure it out please let us know.

    "It'll never happen here. It'll never pass".
    Here in Commienecticut we recently had a Bill introduced that would limit us to single-shot firearms only, all other firearms equal a felony. While they are likely right in their assertion that such a draconian Bill would not be passed at this time I question their sanity in keeping their heads in the sand. These Bills never cease being introduced and whenever one is passed it laps away at our Rights like small waves eroding a shore. Well, this one is more like a tsunami:

    "That the general statutes be amended to establish a class C felony offense, except for certain military and law enforcement personnel and certain gun clubs, for (1) any person or organization to purchase, sell, donate, transport, possess or use any gun except one made to fire a single round, (2) any person to fire a gun containing more than a single round, (3) any person or organization to receive from another state, territory or country a gun made to fire multiple rounds, or (4) any person or organization to purchase, sell, donate or possess a magazine or clip capable of holding more than one round."

    http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/TOB/S/2013SB-00122-R00-SB.htm
  • MudderChuckMudderChuck Member Posts: 4,105
    edited November -1
    Linear thinking, these people get a hold of an idea and take it to extremes.

    You hear them say in countries that have strict firearms controls and IMO silly laws limiting the style of a firearm, that firearms related deaths have fallen. And pat themselves on the back and say what what a good debtor/negotiator am I. I call them masterbators.

    What they seldom mention is that violent crime in general increases, arson increases and people learn how to make bombs out of necessity.

    I see firearms as the lesser evil, the masterbators portray then as the only evil.

    For any policy there are always unintended results, always. Firearms deaths are high because firearms are available and in most peoples minds the right tool for the job. Take away or reduce the availability of firearms and people will eventually hit on the idea of using another tool, which my be worse and more indiscriminate than a firearm.

    Over here a typical firearm crime might be some guys wife finds herself another guy, cleans out the first guys bank accounts and moves in with his replacement. In the U.S. the jilted husband might buy a gun and shoot his wife or her boyfriend, maybe even the kids. You see it in the news often. Over here the jilted husband buys five gallons of gas and sets the house on fire. They build up here, multi level houses, one family lives on the ground floor another on the next floor etc. He sets the fire in the stairwell and burns multiple families alive. IMO if he had a firearm he could at least aim it. Gun crime is statistically lower with strict gun control laws, the overall homicide rate about the same or even a little higher in the long term.. Serious assaults are almost always higher after a firearms ban or laws severely limiting firearm ownership.

    The ruling elite feel safer when Joe citizen has a reduced ability to acquire and practice with firearms, they play the percentages. IMO most all of their arguments are a smoke screen for their own agenda. Anytime the ruling elite professes altruistic motives, I call BS. Few really give a darn about Joe Citizen in general and habitually use the phrase "for your own good" as a smoke screen for their own agendas..

    Over here we have had a rash of teens 2-3 in a group, beating old men to death. In the states IMO they wouldn't get far before they ran into some old man with a pistol. Just saying.

    What the gun advocates have to realize is where this is going, a outright gun ban unlikely any time soon, but here, plastic stocks are forbidden, pistol grips are forbidden, pump shotguns are forbidden etc, etc. etc. It didn't happen all at once, one law at a time over a period of twenty years adds up. And you have multiple organizations working against gun ownership at the same time. The ruling elite, the animal rights people, the back to nature bunch and numerous other organizations that have an agenda to stop all private gun ownership and hunting.

    They talk about the big bad NRA, check out the membership of the Green party. Three hundred and fifty thousand members in the U.S., ninety three affiliates world wide and they share strategies. If they hit on a strategy that works, in say Germany, you'll see the same strategies used in the U.S. a short time later.

    If you think too small, about yourself, your town, your county or even your country, you are thinking too small. Anti gun is a global initiative.
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