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my maritime company

CbtEngr01CbtEngr01 Member Posts: 4,340
edited October 2012 in General Discussion
The company i work for has 7 tug boats and 1 ship. Each boat does work for multiple different companies. There is only 1 boat doing working at the moment. ALL the others are waiting until after the election. If Romney wins: everything goes on ok. If obama gets it they are either: closing down totally, filing bankruptcy, selling out, or moving over seas.
Basicly, if obama gets re elected there are dozens and dozens of us that will be out of a job

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  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    Well, hopefully you will have a job for many years to come.
  • A J ChristA J Christ Member Posts: 7,534
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
    Well, hopefully you will have a job for many years to come.


    +1
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CbtEngr01
    The company i work for has 7 tug boats and 1 ship. Each boat does work for multiple different companies. There is only 1 boat doing working at the moment. ALL the others are waiting until after the election. If Romney wins: everything goes on ok. If obama gets it they are either: closing down totally, filing bankruptcy, selling out, or moving over seas.
    Basicly, if obama gets re elected there are dozens and dozens of us that will be out of a job
    I guess the Company wants the employees to vote for Romney...right?
  • CbtEngr01CbtEngr01 Member Posts: 4,340
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by CbtEngr01
    The company i work for has 7 tug boats and 1 ship. Each boat does work for multiple different companies. There is only 1 boat doing working at the moment. ALL the others are waiting until after the election. If Romney wins: everything goes on ok. If obama gets it they are either: closing down totally, filing bankruptcy, selling out, or moving over seas.
    Basicly, if obama gets re elected there are dozens and dozens of us that will be out of a job
    I guess the Company wants the employees to vote for Romney...right?


    the company hasnt said anything to anyone about the election. Its * 2 companies in one: the marine transportation side and a shipyard side. The shipyard side is majority afro American. The company has been around since 1913
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    I wish You all Well, CBT -

    Glad I retired out of the Merchant Service, Ten Years Ago - Most of the Companies I worked for have gone. States Lines, Pacific Far East Lines, U.S. Lines, Sea-Land Services, American Presidents' Line, HydroScience Inc, ....

    I think Crowley Tugs are still Running, Matson, and Maritime Overseas, Bankers Trust Tankers?
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CbtEngr01
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by CbtEngr01
    The company i work for has 7 tug boats and 1 ship. Each boat does work for multiple different companies. There is only 1 boat doing working at the moment. ALL the others are waiting until after the election. If Romney wins: everything goes on ok. If obama gets it they are either: closing down totally, filing bankruptcy, selling out, or moving over seas.
    Basicly, if obama gets re elected there are dozens and dozens of us that will be out of a job
    I guess the Company wants the employees to vote for Romney...right?


    the company hasnt said anything to anyone about the election. Its * 2 companies in one: the marine transportation side and a shipyard side. The shipyard side is majority afro American. The company has been around since 1913
    subliminal message perhaps
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know of several business's that will close if Obama is reelected...
  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    I know of several business's that will close if Obama is reelected...
    What will the owners do for income?
  • pirate2501pirate2501 Member Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Been on tugs and barges for 32 years. This is my 4th company so far. Every 10 or so years the company is sold or goes belly up. Haven't lost any time in all those years. Hang in there someone will buy the equipment and offer you to stay on or you will find work at another company,always looking for experienced people. Been there many times and always made a good living.[;)]
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    I know of several business's that will close if Obama is reelected...
    What will the owners do for income?
    I've heard the same...
    And a very good question right there...

    Curiously... I wonder if they expect the gub'ment to help 'em out.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What work for the tugs won't be there after an Obama win?
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    What work for the tugs won't be there after an Obama win?


    Coal... Steel... Oil...
  • 4627046270 Member Posts: 12,627
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by CbtEngr01
    The company i work for has 7 tug boats and 1 ship. Each boat does work for multiple different companies. There is only 1 boat doing working at the moment. ALL the others are waiting until after the election. If Romney wins: everything goes on ok. If obama gets it they are either: closing down totally, filing bankruptcy, selling out, or moving over seas.
    Basicly, if obama gets re elected there are dozens and dozens of us that will be out of a job
    I guess the Company wants the employees to vote for Romney...right?


    No they will tell you right up, vote who you want too, just remember bonehead his doing his best to destroy this country. If Obama were white, it would be just like jimmy carter, but if you don't vote for Obama is race, bull crap . Did you see were Marina had a concert, she opened her big mouth, says she voting for bonehead, something like I don't care who you vote for as long as its Obama, I don't know how many, but they left.
    I would never have gone to see her anyway.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i imagine there are MANY companies that are on the line just waiting to see...now if your are a mexican or muslim or illegal it should be OK till they find out there is no one left to tax
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
    quote:Originally posted by reloader44mag
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    I know of several business's that will close if Obama is reelected...
    What will the owners do for income?
    I've heard the same...
    And a very good question right there...

    Curiously... I wonder if they expect the gub'ment to help 'em out.




    I doubt it...they probably have money to weather the next four years, then see what happens once again. I would imagine owners of a Company that size are quite wealthy, and didn't build something that large by handling money poorly. I don't blame them one bit for that strategy.
  • CbtEngr01CbtEngr01 Member Posts: 4,340
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    What work for the tugs won't be there after an Obama win?


    my company handles just about everything except petrolium. With all the red tape, govt regs and insurance stuff to go through they wont mess with it. Only takes one screw up and the companies finished.
  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm sorry, but could you explain this a bit more. I just don't understand how if Romney is elected your company will be just fine but if Obama is reelected your company will instantly fold.

    Are you saying that if Obama is reelected America is going to instantly stop using coal and oil? Considering that coal and oil take care of something like 85+% of all our energy needs, I don't see how that is suddenly going to change. Is America going to suddenly stop importing goods from the rest of the world? Is America suddenly going to stop exporting goods?

    Or maybe are you being fed a very simple story which you are taking hook, line, and sinker. Maybe the owners of your companies are trying to get the boats registered overseas so they can hire cheaper labor and don't have to worry about American worker-safety standards. Cruise ship companies do this all the time. Most cruise ships are owned by European or American companies but many are registered in poop-hole African countries. Doing so allows them to dance around safety regulations. Or maybe they're trying to sell the company and don't want to risk hurting the ships while making a sale. The workers are understandably wondering why the ships aren't sailing, and instead of being told the truth they're told, "It's that terrible Obama."

    I simply don't think American energy needs and the American economy are going to change overnight if Obama is reelected. The one possibly valid argument you might make is that Obama has recently shown some willingness to take America over the "fiscal cliff" and let the massive spending cuts go into effect. The owners of your company might be reasonably worried about this and might think that Romney would not allow that to happen. Romney might rig it so there's even more deficit spending and we kick the can down the road a bit more. Fair enough, but if that's what you want then you're just saying you want more deficit spending and more increases in the national debt. Dude, that's kind of liberal.

    If my employer was feeding me the line that you're getting fed, I'd go look for a different job.
  • the middlethe middle Member Posts: 3,089
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
    I'm sorry, but could you explain this a bit more. I just don't understand how if Romney is elected your company will be just fine but if Obama is reelected your company will instantly fold.

    Are you saying that if Obama is reelected America is going to instantly stop using coal and oil? Considering that coal and oil take care of something like 85+% of all our energy needs, I don't see how that is suddenly going to change. Is America going to suddenly stop importing goods from the rest of the world? Is America suddenly going to stop exporting goods?

    Or maybe are you being fed a very simple story which you are taking hook, line, and sinker. Maybe the owners of your companies are trying to get the boats registered overseas so they can hire cheaper labor and don't have to worry about American worker-safety standards. Cruise ship companies do this all the time. Most cruise ships are owned by European or American companies but many are registered in poop-hole African countries. Doing so allows them to dance around safety regulations. Or maybe they're trying to sell the company and don't want to risk hurting the ships while making a sale. The workers are understandably wondering why the ships aren't sailing, and instead of being told the truth they're told, "It's that terrible Obama."

    I simply don't think American energy needs and the American economy are going to change overnight if Obama is reelected. The one possibly valid argument you might make is that Obama has recently shown some willingness to take America over the "fiscal cliff" and let the massive spending cuts go into effect. The owners of your company might be reasonably worried about this and might think that Romney would not allow that to happen. Romney might rig it so there's even more deficit spending and we kick the can down the road a bit more. Fair enough, but if that's what you want then you're just saying you want more deficit spending and more increases in the national debt. Dude, that's kind of liberal.

    If my employer was feeding me the line that you're getting fed, I'd go look for a different job.



    +100
  • CbtEngr01CbtEngr01 Member Posts: 4,340
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
    I'm sorry, but could you explain this a bit more. I just don't understand how if Romney is elected your company will be just fine but if Obama is reelected your company will instantly fold.

    Are you saying that if Obama is reelected America is going to instantly stop using coal and oil? Considering that coal and oil take care of something like 85+% of all our energy needs, I don't see how that is suddenly going to change. Is America going to suddenly stop importing goods from the rest of the world? Is America suddenly going to stop exporting goods?

    Or maybe are you being fed a very simple story which you are taking hook, line, and sinker. Maybe the owners of your companies are trying to get the boats registered overseas so they can hire cheaper labor and don't have to worry about American worker-safety standards. Cruise ship companies do this all the time. Most cruise ships are owned by European or American companies but many are registered in poop-hole African countries. Doing so allows them to dance around safety regulations. Or maybe they're trying to sell the company and don't want to risk hurting the ships while making a sale. The workers are understandably wondering why the ships aren't sailing, and instead of being told the truth they're told, "It's that terrible Obama."

    I simply don't think American energy needs and the American economy are going to change overnight if Obama is reelected. The one possibly valid argument you might make is that Obama has recently shown some willingness to take America over the "fiscal cliff" and let the massive spending cuts go into effect. The owners of your company might be reasonably worried about this and might think that Romney would not allow that to happen. Romney might rig it so there's even more deficit spending and we kick the can down the road a bit more. Fair enough, but if that's what you want then you're just saying you want more deficit spending and more increases in the national debt. Dude, that's kind of liberal.

    If my employer was feeding me the line that you're getting fed, I'd go look for a different job.

    quote:Originally posted by mlincoln
    I'm sorry, but could you explain this a bit more. I just don't understand how if Romney is elected your company will be just fine but if Obama is reelected your company will instantly fold.

    Are you saying that if Obama is reelected America is going to instantly stop using coal and oil? Considering that coal and oil take care of something like 85+% of all our energy needs, I don't see how that is suddenly going to change. Is America going to suddenly stop importing goods from the rest of the world? Is America suddenly going to stop exporting goods?

    Or maybe are you being fed a very simple story which you are taking hook, line, and sinker. Maybe the owners of your companies are trying to get the boats registered overseas so they can hire cheaper labor and don't have to worry about American worker-safety standards. Cruise ship companies do this all the time. Most cruise ships are owned by European or American companies but many are registered in poop-hole African countries. Doing so allows them to dance around safety regulations. Or maybe they're trying to sell the company and don't want to risk hurting the ships while making a sale. The workers are understandably wondering why the ships aren't sailing, and instead of being told the truth they're told, "It's that terrible Obama."

    I simply don't think American energy needs and the American economy are going to change overnight if Obama is reelected. The one possibly valid argument you might make is that Obama has recently shown some willingness to take America over the "fiscal cliff" and let the massive spending cuts go into effect. The owners of your company might be reasonably worried about this and might think that Romney would not allow that to happen. Romney might rig it so there's even more deficit spending and we kick the can down the road a bit more. Fair enough, but if that's what you want then you're just saying you want more deficit spending and more increases in the national debt. Dude, that's kind of liberal.

    If my employer was feeding me the line that you're getting fed, I'd go look for a different job.


    My employer is not feeding me anything. I never stated that they would instantly fold, nor have I stated I was fearful of losing my job.
    I simply stated that the companies we do 'work' for (contracts) are waiting until after the election to make a move.
    My company obviously wants their boats to be running. As of yesterday there was only one pushing a barge. All the others are tied up somewhere. (while we are tied up we can focus more on boat maintenance)
    My company has not laid anyone off. Our boats payrolls are $6500-$8000 per week per boat. Some of the boats that are tied up have stopped weekend work, cutting down on payroll.
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