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California assault rifle ban
DEEREHART
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So I just started thinking about this. We, the wife some friends of ours and myself go to northern California every spring to shoot ground squirrels. We mostly just take bolt guns but the Princess has an Alexander Arms in 17 HMR. She is not going to be happy if it does not travel along with us. A couple of buddys also have ARs in 204. I have had contact with a game officer once in 15 years of going down there. We really don't want to go somewhere else as we have developed friendships with ranchers and farmers there. What do you think take em or leave them home.
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What does the United States Constitution say about it?
My interpretation of the Constitution would say it is a non issue.
According to the Cali DOJ website there is a provision for non residents to travel through with said weapons. Sometimes you just have to go for it. Probably wouldn't take any "hearing protection devices" though.
CA is a DEMOCRAT state.
It's actually pretty simple.
Tell your wife and your buddies that each individual is responsible for their own fines and jail sentences. Leave the decision up to them as to which rifles to bring. I would also suggest to your wife that you will be a devoted husband and wait patiently for her release from the State Prison. [;)] If they don't get it then, screw 'em! Let the Cali Commies have their way with them. [}:)]
These are not sane people that you're dealing with in California. This is not the time to playfully thumb your nose at them, as they will bend you over the table. [xx(]
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DEEREHART,
It's actually pretty simple.
Tell your wife and your buddies that each individual is responsible for their own fines and jail sentences. Leave the decision up to them as to which rifles to bring. I would also suggest to your wife that you will be a devoted husband and wait patiently for her release from the State Prison. [;)] If they don't get it then, screw 'em! Let the Cali Commies have their way with them. [}:)]
OK I get it. So any thoughts on making the Alexander arms in 17 HMR California compliant. I have read up on their rules and am more confused than when I started. If I made the magazine "fixed" and put a non collapsible butt stock on it would I be legal.
I don't have the time or money for a protracted legal battle. I just want to have fun.
We shoot mostly near Dorris but occasionally get down as far as Macdoel. The last and only game officer we ever saw was 6 years ago. We were set up on a farm track just getting ready to head home. His only concern was that we did not have hunting licenses. We were operating on the premise that we were working for the farmer for pest control. The Cal regs at that time were a bit vague on this. We talked about it with him, he admitted that it could be interpreted that way but just to be safe we should purchase a license in the future. We have since done so and never have we been ask again. The local call BS on the license thing but I do try to do the right thing.
These are not sane people that you're dealing with in California. This is not the time to playfully thumb your nose at them, as they will bend you over the table. [xx(]
Best.
I don't have the time or money for a protracted legal battle. I just want to have fun.
We shoot mostly near Dorris but occasionally get down as far as Macdoel. The last and only game officer we ever saw was 6 years ago. We were set up on a farm track just getting ready to head home. His only concern was that we did not have hunting licenses. We were operating on the premise that we were working for the farmer for pest control. The Cal regs at that time were a bit vague on this. We talked about it with him, he admitted that it could be interpreted that way but just to be safe we should purchase a license in the future. We have since done so and never have we been ask again. The local call BS on the license thing but I do try to do the right thing.
When you visit Princess in prison, show her a picture of the squirrels you got without her and tell her how much you miss her and fake a tear.
People helping People.
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read this one
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=688342
I already gave half of my stuff away 15 years ago. At this point I don't want to get rid of this one. She does do nice things for me[:D].
Last night I brought a new GunBroker purchase home. She saw me walk in with it and only ask if it was an investment or a shooter. She then commented on how pretty it was and went about cooking dinner. Did I mention that she packed two days worth of firewood into the house while I was at work yesterday. And she wants to go to the range in the morning. Temp will be in the low 20s.
Nope not going to screw this up!!![;)]
http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
You can now add the Bullet Button to this ^ list..
Being Rimfire, if your 17HMR is factory with a 17HMR marked lower, you're good-to-go as is, nothing needs to be done.. Rimfire uppers on a marked centerfire lower are still questionable to some- I wouldn't risk it..
One major caution- Even Rimfires have a 10 round magazine limit.. I would also transport it in a locked case.. I carry every firearm in a locked case here in Kali.. The case can be soft or hard, just locked.. I use a simple small combination padlock..
Changing the magazine to 'Fixed' is the easiest for centerfire since no other changes are necessary, however the definition of "Fixed' is still undetermined since the Bullet Button suddenly became evil and is not recognized as of Jan 1, 2017.. I'd just leave those at home..-This is the current fix-du-jour for 2017, but has not yet been DOJ approved..
https://www.armaglock.com/
Going 'Featureless' is an option but is quite a procedure..
http://tinyurl.com/zw79utq
Enjoy your visit to the World Behind the Looking-Glass..
In October 2013, Assembly Bill 711 was signed into law requiring the use of nonlead ammunition when taking any wildlife with a firearm in California
You might accidently give a condor lead poisoning while you are shooting ground squirrels[xx(]
Thanks for the heads up on the 17 HMR not falling into the same category as the center fire stuff.
Princess is happy she can have her favorite[:D]
GOD forbid G Newsome gets elected gov. it will be x10 worse.....
Another thing to consider is the lead ammo ban in the state;
In October 2013, Assembly Bill 711 was signed into law requiring the use of nonlead ammunition when taking any wildlife with a firearm in California
You might accidently give a condor lead poisoning while you are shooting ground squirrels[xx(]
This is a point I have made a 1000 times to the state of CA DFG, Reps. Congress, the Governor, EPA the Coastal Commission etc,.
quote:California Condors look for a free meals, where do you find them? Land fills- Not following varmint hunters.
I bust there chops every time it's quoted it's from bullets.[:(!][:(!][:(!]
I do see that someday it may not be feasible for us to shoot in California. The guys growing the alfalfa are the people who will really suffer. One of our favorite ranches was leased by a large hay exporter. Soon after the new stewards took over they would not allow shooters. They started some sort of poison regime. It has been three years and when we drive by the squirrels just thumb their noses.[:D]. I has to be costing mega bucks for very little progress. We are not in the condor area but there are hundreds of hawks and golden eagles that survive on the little varments. What do you suppose the poison is doing to the predator population.
The other thing that I am finding out when I study the assault rifle ban is that its ok to bring one to California if you are using it in movie production. Maybe we could make our own squirrel shooting movie.[:p]
It would seem to me that if the are so dead set on outlawing the rifles they should at least not glorify them in the film industry[xx(]
Personally, I would not set foot in Commiefornia or any of the other states with unconstitutional gun laws with a firearm of any kind. Not worth the risk.
This ^^^