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carrier landing--or controlled crash?
discusdad
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check out this short video clip of a Russian Mig29 making a carrier landing. pay attention to the left wheel...that's abuse to the Nth degree
turn sound down 1st before playing its annoyingly loud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=0iqqBD-DlwU&ab_channel=OlegChernikov
turn sound down 1st before playing its annoyingly loud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=0iqqBD-DlwU&ab_channel=OlegChernikov
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Brad Steele
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Russian planes are very robust. They build them that way to operate from forward bases. Their engines can ingest FOD without much damage and dirt strips are the norm.
Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Sergey Georgiyevich Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of ' Good Enough'".
The United States spent a million bucks developing an ink pen for the astronauts that would write in space. The Soviets gave their cosmonauts a pencil.
In 1976, Viktor Belenko was a Soviet pilot who defected to the West with his MiG-25 'Foxbat' jet fighter who landed in Misawa, Japan. This was a new supersonic fighter the West was curious about. They thought it has some new metallurgy or coating that allowed it to reach and maintain supersonic speed. Upon inspection, they found the fuselage to be plain old steel with two very powerful jet engines stuffed in it.
That was a normal landing you just saw.
That was a fine landing. Both mainmounts touched down at about the same moment.
Russian planes are very robust. They build them that way to operate from forward bases. Their engines can ingest FOD without much damage and dirt strips are the norm.
Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Sergey Georgiyevich Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of ' Good Enough'".
The United States spent a million bucks developing an ink pen for the astronauts that would write in space. The Soviets gave their cosmonauts a pencil.
In 1976, Viktor Belenko was a Soviet pilot who defected to the West with his MiG-25 'Foxbat' jet fighter who landed in Misawa, Japan. This was a new supersonic fighter the West was curious about. They thought it has some new metallurgy or coating that allowed it to reach and maintain supersonic speed. Upon inspection, they found the fuselage to be plain old steel with two very powerful jet engines stuffed in it.
That was a normal landing you just saw.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig29/
For those of you who want actual facts instead of the typical P3 limited knowledge version:
The MiG-29 is the world's first aircraft fitted with dual-mode air intakes. During flight, the open air intakes feed air to the engines.
While moving on the ground, the air intakes are closed and air is fed through the louvres on the upper surface of the wing root to prevent ingestion of foreign objects from the runway. This is particularly important when operating from poorly prepared airfields.
I apologize for the continued mis-information being promulgated by a fellow USN person, and because of this unfortunate association, will continue to correct the record as needed.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
That was a fine landing. Both mainmounts touched down at about the same moment.
Russian planes are very robust. They build them that way to operate from forward bases. Their engines can ingest FOD without much damage and dirt strips are the norm.
Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Sergey Georgiyevich Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of ' Good Enough'".
The United States spent a million bucks developing an ink pen for the astronauts that would write in space. The Soviets gave their cosmonauts a pencil.
In 1976, Viktor Belenko was a Soviet pilot who defected to the West with his MiG-25 'Foxbat' jet fighter who landed in Misawa, Japan. This was a new supersonic fighter the West was curious about. They thought it has some new metallurgy or coating that allowed it to reach and maintain supersonic speed. Upon inspection, they found the fuselage to be plain old steel with two very powerful jet engines stuffed in it.
That was a normal landing you just saw.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig29/
For those of you who want actual facts instead of the typical P3 limited knowledge version:
The MiG-29 is the world's first aircraft fitted with dual-mode air intakes. During flight, the open air intakes feed air to the engines.
While moving on the ground, the air intakes are closed and air is fed through the louvres on the upper surface of the wing root to prevent ingestion of foreign objects from the runway. This is particularly important when operating from poorly prepared airfields.
I apologize for the continued mis-information being promulgated by a fellow USN person, and because of this unfortunate association, will continue to correct the record as needed.
I'm making you look up stuff and learn! Mission accomplished! [:p][:D][;)]
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
That was a fine landing. Both mainmounts touched down at about the same moment.
Russian planes are very robust. They build them that way to operate from forward bases. Their engines can ingest FOD without much damage and dirt strips are the norm.
Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Sergey Georgiyevich Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of ' Good Enough'".
The United States spent a million bucks developing an ink pen for the astronauts that would write in space. The Soviets gave their cosmonauts a pencil.
In 1976, Viktor Belenko was a Soviet pilot who defected to the West with his MiG-25 'Foxbat' jet fighter who landed in Misawa, Japan. This was a new supersonic fighter the West was curious about. They thought it has some new metallurgy or coating that allowed it to reach and maintain supersonic speed. Upon inspection, they found the fuselage to be plain old steel with two very powerful jet engines stuffed in it.
That was a normal landing you just saw.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig29/
For those of you who want actual facts instead of the typical P3 limited knowledge version:
The MiG-29 is the world's first aircraft fitted with dual-mode air intakes. During flight, the open air intakes feed air to the engines.
While moving on the ground, the air intakes are closed and air is fed through the louvres on the upper surface of the wing root to prevent ingestion of foreign objects from the runway. This is particularly important when operating from poorly prepared airfields.
I apologize for the continued mis-information being promulgated by a fellow USN person, and because of this unfortunate association, will continue to correct the record as needed.
I'm making you look up stuff and learn! Mission accomplished! [:p][:D][;)]
You flatter yourself.
As per usual.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
That was a fine landing. Both mainmounts touched down at about the same moment.
Russian planes are very robust. They build them that way to operate from forward bases. Their engines can ingest FOD without much damage and dirt strips are the norm.
Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Sergey Georgiyevich Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of ' Good Enough'".
The United States spent a million bucks developing an ink pen for the astronauts that would write in space. The Soviets gave their cosmonauts a pencil.
In 1976, Viktor Belenko was a Soviet pilot who defected to the West with his MiG-25 'Foxbat' jet fighter who landed in Misawa, Japan. This was a new supersonic fighter the West was curious about. They thought it has some new metallurgy or coating that allowed it to reach and maintain supersonic speed. Upon inspection, they found the fuselage to be plain old steel with two very powerful jet engines stuffed in it.
That was a normal landing you just saw.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig29/
For those of you who want actual facts instead of the typical P3 limited knowledge version:
The MiG-29 is the world's first aircraft fitted with dual-mode air intakes. During flight, the open air intakes feed air to the engines.
While moving on the ground, the air intakes are closed and air is fed through the louvres on the upper surface of the wing root to prevent ingestion of foreign objects from the runway. This is particularly important when operating from poorly prepared airfields.
I apologize for the continued mis-information being promulgated by a fellow USN person, and because of this unfortunate association, will continue to correct the record as needed.
Correcting P3 could be a full time job. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
That was a fine landing. Both mainmounts touched down at about the same moment.
Russian planes are very robust. They build them that way to operate from forward bases. Their engines can ingest FOD without much damage and dirt strips are the norm.
Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Sergey Georgiyevich Gorshkov is often associated with the phrase "'Better' is the enemy of ' Good Enough'".
The United States spent a million bucks developing an ink pen for the astronauts that would write in space. The Soviets gave their cosmonauts a pencil.
In 1976, Viktor Belenko was a Soviet pilot who defected to the West with his MiG-25 'Foxbat' jet fighter who landed in Misawa, Japan. This was a new supersonic fighter the West was curious about. They thought it has some new metallurgy or coating that allowed it to reach and maintain supersonic speed. Upon inspection, they found the fuselage to be plain old steel with two very powerful jet engines stuffed in it.
That was a normal landing you just saw.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig29/
For those of you who want actual facts instead of the typical P3 limited knowledge version:
The MiG-29 is the world's first aircraft fitted with dual-mode air intakes. During flight, the open air intakes feed air to the engines.
While moving on the ground, the air intakes are closed and air is fed through the louvres on the upper surface of the wing root to prevent ingestion of foreign objects from the runway. This is particularly important when operating from poorly prepared airfields.
I apologize for the continued mis-information being promulgated by a fellow USN person, and because of this unfortunate association, will continue to correct the record as needed.
Correcting P3 could be a full time job. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/
You boys do that. Tomorrow I'll tell you why Operation Ivy was so important and who were the first people to use microwave ovens in combat.
Be ready with your assignment by 1100 tomorrow.[}:)][:p]
I do enjoy pot stirring and spirited verbal exchanges but once again the ego and animosity has overshadowed if not totally occluded fascinating factual exchanges and interesting personal anecdotes.
Mike
Some things just need doing.
Don
Brad Steele
I understand your viewpoint and have not been / am not immune to such motivations and actions.
I cannot realize the best of all possible worlds here and could be a better contributor myself somedays / as of late.
Please don't take what I said personally
Please continue to tilt at windmills when needed
Mike
Brad Steele
...my boy did 187 crashes on the Teddy Roosevelt...[;)]
Dad was on the Franklin D. CVA-42 [:)]
I thought a carrier landing was both!
+1 [8D]
And the pilot who lost his canopy to a birdstrike and his ability to see and landed on a carrier while blind sticks in my mind more recently...
I have always had a fascination for the pre1945 foreign built carriers (finished - never finished - proposed) and the carrier conversions of vessels not laid down for that purpose...
And the Japanese main fleet carriers - the auxiliary support models - and the helicopter carrier that saw use in the Philippines...
Mike
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
...my boy did 187 crashes on the Teddy Roosevelt...[;)]
Dad was on the Franklin D. CVA-42 [:)]
Fantastic!..when was he on cruise?
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
...my boy did 187 crashes on the Teddy Roosevelt...[;)]
Dad was on the Franklin D. CVA-42 [:)]
Fantastic!..when was he on cruise?
Early 60's (I think 60 - 64 if my math is right) He was missing the Cruise Book for '61 because he was in Albuquerque for Nuke School. I found a copy on fleabay a few years ago and got it for him for his Birthday. Turns out that copy originally belonged to the Ships Dentist and Dad knew him. [:)]