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I hate a thief.
TrinityScrimshaw
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While zoning at work tonight, found where someone had stolen a 159.00 electronic double breast pump, and 6 packs of batteries in the midst of all the Halloween drama.
Thats what they get for only scheduling me tonight.
Thats what they get for only scheduling me tonight.
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I have supplied my Cowboy Action squad with quite a bit of leather over the past few years at a real fraction of the cost they would have paid anywhere else. Back in April 2011 I had made a complete holster rig with two Double Loop holsters (with horse hair tassels), 38" Sam Brown style belt, badge holder, and 12 gauge shot shell holder. I was going to ask $160 for the entire rig, which was a deal, but a fellow shooter said he wanted it but didn't have the money at the time. I told him that if he wanted it I would sell it to him for $100, and he could pay me later.
Well two years later I still haven't been paid. I have sent him messages through FaceBook, which he ignored, and even confronted him a few times at shoots the past two years. I once asked him if he didn't want it to just give it back & I would resell it, but he said he still wanted it. He has kind of been avoiding me, so today at our monthly shoot I confronted him about paying me.
He said he wanted to talk with me away from the group, so we walked over towards the parking lot. He starts by saying he knew he paid a considerable amount down, but forgot how much, so I should let him know how much he still owed. I gave him the deer caught in the headlights look, and told him that he owed the $100, because he never paid down anything. I asked him to just return the rig, and we would call it even. He said he didn't have it any longer, that he had sold it! Things went downhill from there. He said it was my fault for having waited so long to collect, that he did pay some towards the rig, and that because I didn't recall how much he paid down he wasn't going to pay the full price. I then told him that it was my fault for thinking he was a friend that he clearly wanted to welch on his debt and try and beat me out of the rig.
To say I was a bit pizzed off is to put it lightly, I was fuming inside & he knew it. I told him in no uncertain terms that he was a low life scumbag, and that I didn't want to have anything to do with him ever again. I turned to walk away & he started to cuss me out saying he should knock the crap out of me. He has a cane for a back injury, and he even kind raised it a bit off the ground when I turned to leave. Knowing things were not going to get any better, and knowing I could snap him like a twig if I really wanted to I just walked over to me truck & got inside. He followed me & said a few things to try and soothe the wounds, but I didn't want to hear what he had to say. He wasn't reaching in his wallet to pay me, so nothing he was going to say was going to make me feel any different about him.
OK, so yea, Im a Christian, and I know I should forgive him, but to me it was his plan all along to avoid me as long as possible, and then try and throw up a smokescreen about having paid for some of it already. It isn't even about the money, but then it is, because that's the principle of the matter. I guess it is my fault for not having him write me an IOU, and putting things down in writing. The way I was raised my word is my honor, and my handshake is my bond. It is clear he wasn't raised that way, and while I need to forgive him, I will never trust him ever again![}:)]
Trinity +++
That's the best $100 you'll ever spend. You now know the charactor of the person, and know to stay clear of him.
Sad, but you're a good man, and you know he isn't.
Only and best thing to do is forgive and forget....to also post his name so he can't beguile and trick the rest of us...
Trinity +++
When anybody comes back for a second ride on the merry-go-round, if they appear to be in real need I'll give them enough to help them over the rough spot, but I ask them to give me the respect of not saying they intend to pay it back.
been there
they will answer some day someway
Trinity,
That's the best $100 you'll ever spend. You now know the charactor of the person, and know to stay clear of him.
Sad, but you're a good man, and you know he isn't.
10 ring. B
One day the high school boy goes to his Mafia buddy with a problem. He has lent a kid $20 and the kid won't pay. The kid is avoiding him. He wants to know what the Mafia chief thinks he should do. He figures, the Mafia guy will send Vito and Vinnie over to break the guy's knees with a baseball bat.
The Mafia chieftain tells the kid, "Walk away from this bum. Forget about him. You thought he was a friend, but now you know he is a bum.
Let the money go it is the best $20 you ever spent."
Movie was set in 1963, accounting for inflation that 20 bucks is about equal to the 100 you lost.
Now....I just give it. I never have to keep track of who owes me.
Now me being the * I would've said something out loud "why do you need to take me aside? Are you ashamed of your theiving ways?". "Consider it a buzzardo be gone gift 'cos you're too dishonest to pay".
and make sure all around the shootin bunch KNOWS he's a cheat...may save someone else getting screwed
+1. I'd be telling everyone involved in the league what this guy did. If they're any sort of good people, they'd make him feel so unwelcome whenever he showed up that he'd stop showing up altogether.
Every time they get taken down have them replaced by your "real" friends.
Some here know that I have a hobby being a Leather Smith.
I have supplied my Cowboy Action squad with quite a bit of leather over the past few years at a real fraction of the cost they would have paid anywhere else. Back in April 2011 I had made a complete holster rig with two Double Loop holsters (with horse hair tassels), 38" Sam Brown style belt, badge holder, and 12 gauge shot shell holder. I was going to ask $160 for the entire rig, which was a deal, but a fellow shooter said he wanted it but didn't have the money at the time. I told him that if he wanted it I would sell it to him for $100, and he could pay me later.
Well two years later I still haven't been paid. I have sent him messages through FaceBook, which he ignored, and even confronted him a few times at shoots the past two years. I once asked him if he didn't want it to just give it back & I would resell it, but he said he still wanted it. He has kind of been avoiding me, so today at our monthly shoot I confronted him about paying me.
He said he wanted to talk with me away from the group, so we walked over towards the parking lot. He starts by saying he knew he paid a considerable amount down, but forgot how much, so I should let him know how much he stilled owed. I gave him the deer caught in the headlights look, and told him that he owed the $100, because he never paid down anything. I asked him to just return the rig, and we would call it even. He said he didn't have it any longer, that he had sold it! Things went downhill from there. He said it was my fault for having waited so long to collect, that he did pay some towards the rig, and that because I didn't recall how much he paid down he wasn't going to pay the full price. I then told him that it was my fault for thinking he was a friend that he clearly wanted to welch on his debt and try and beat me out of the rig.
To say I was a bit pizzed off is to put it lightly, I was fuming inside & he knew it. I told him in no uncertain terms that he was a low life scumbag, and that I didn't want to have anything to do with him ever again. I turned to walk away & he started to cuss me out saying he should knock the crap out of me. He has a cane for a back injury, and he even kind raised it a bit off the ground when I turned to leave. Knowing things were not going to get any better, and knowing I could snap him like a twig if I really wanted to I just walked over to me truck & got inside. He followed me & said a few things to try and soothe the wounds, but I didn't want to hear what he had to say. He wasn't reaching in his wallet to pay me, so nothing he was going to say was going to make me feel any different about him.
OK, so yea, Im a Christian, and I know I should forgive him, but to me it was his plan all along to avoid me as long as possible, and then try and throw up a smokescreen about having paid for some of it already. It isn't even about the money, but then it is, because that's the principle of the matter. I guess it is my fault for not having him write me an IOU, and putting things down in writing. The way I was raised my word is my honor, and my handshake is my bond. It is clear he wasn't raised that way, and while I need to forgive him, I will never trust him ever again![}:)]
Trinity +++
Your friend is a dirt bag. Worse that when you got him in a corner he tried to say he paid some and worse he wants to cuss you out for his actions. I like the idea of one poster to put the details in a flyer and put it on the bulletin boards.
Clouder..
quote:Originally posted by allen griggs
In the movie A Bronx Tale there is a teenage kid who is growing up in New York. He is friends with a real bad * guy who is the local Mafia chieftain.
One day the high school boy goes to his Mafia buddy with a problem. He has lent a kid $20 and the kid won't pay. The kid is avoiding him. He wants to know what the Mafia chief thinks he should do. He figures, the Mafia guy will send Vito and Vinnie over to break the guy's knees with a baseball bat.
The Mafia chieftain tells the kid, "Walk away from this bum. Forget about him. You thought he was a friend, but now you know he is a bum.
Let the money go it is the best $20 you ever spent."
Movie was set in 1963, accounting for inflation that 20 bucks is about equal to the 100 you lost.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
I will probably get banninated for this post, but does anybody have any advice on how to remedy this?
Yes, contact the county attorney in the place where he lives.
Trinity,
That's the best $100 you'll ever spend. You now know the charactor of the person, and know to stay clear of him.
Sad, but you're a good man, and you know he isn't.
I agree 100%.
Good call Danny.
NS
A wonderful piece of advice. I loaned money when I was younger and got screwed over.
Now....I just give it. I never have to keep track of who owes me.
yep,When I give money,I don't expect to see it again,,,,
This guy just plain took advantage of Trinity and done him wrong,[V][V]
I used the word "friend" loosely, because he was on the squad, and did help me get adjusted early on with my reloading Cowboy Action loads. But, every since then he has really turned into a first class scumbag.
I agree with the poster about his wanting to talk with me away from everyone. I thought the same thing when he asked me to do that. I thought "Oh no here it comes, he is going to have some Bull Snot excuse for not paying up", and I was right.
Not getting paid the money isn't the problem here, and I'm sure most of you know that. I make my leather gear & scrimshaw art for folks I think will appreciate it. I have never tried to get rich off it. I know I have put more into it than I have gotten back. Knowing that he has stole something from me that I hand made with my own sweat, and labor kind of torks me to no end.
I am a fairly good judge of character, and I had some feelings about the guy that I wished I had acted on. Like me he is a US Army Veteran, and whenever we would all sit around in shoot the bull as a group & the vets would talk, he always had to one up everyone. I recall one time when one of my other squad members who is also a retired LEO said "Hey Trinity, you were a sniper in the Army weren't you?", and he cut in and started talking about his sniper training. Anyone who has been there & got that T-shirt would quickly pick up is B.S. & would know he hadn't been a sniper. I just let him talk, until everyone drifted away from him.
The thing that bothers me the most is that both of us are Disabled Veterans, and while most Vets would give their shirts off their backs to another Vet, disabled Vets take it even further. It just isn't right that one would take advantage of another. That is crossing all kinds of unwritten boundaries. Most folks know how he is. I just wish they would have warned me before I found out the hard way.
However, I left early from the match, so I am sure he spent the rest of the day bad mouthing me to all the other squad members. All I can say is Karma is a *, and she bites like hell![;)]
Trinity +++
I would, though, tell other people what happened. They need to know who he is and how he treats other people. I always figure that if you're living right you shouldn't have any problem with people talking about how your work and how you treat other people. You might even save somebody down the road a lot of misery.
Post a notice that says something to the effect of "offering $100 in cash or handmade leather goods to anyone who will prove himself to be a no good so-and-so."
JW
Trinity,
That's the best $100 you'll ever spend. You now know the charactor of the person, and know to stay clear of him.
Sad, but you're a good man, and you know he isn't.
+1
But, it still sucks................
I wouldn't bad mouth him at all. I would just simply ignore him completely. You can give a reason why you ignore him and dislike him, only if someone asks..........You are a good man and the bigger man.
Neal