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The Red Cross
dav1965
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Where i worked at before i got sick was really heavy into pushing the Red Cross as their charity. They gave away prizes to the people that gave over a certain percent.
NC had a big flood in 2004. My best friend Paul lost everything except his boat. He used that to tie up coffins that popped out of the ground.
When the Red Cross and government came in to provide help Paul was refused. They gave him water and no food.
He did not get any help from the Red Cross or the government. They told him he made to much money. In 2004 he made about 12 dollars a hour.
However no blacks were turned down for anything. That ended me giving anything to the red cross. I do not know of any white people that were helped in 2004.[V][V][V]
NC had a big flood in 2004. My best friend Paul lost everything except his boat. He used that to tie up coffins that popped out of the ground.
When the Red Cross and government came in to provide help Paul was refused. They gave him water and no food.
He did not get any help from the Red Cross or the government. They told him he made to much money. In 2004 he made about 12 dollars a hour.
However no blacks were turned down for anything. That ended me giving anything to the red cross. I do not know of any white people that were helped in 2004.[V][V][V]
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The CEO of the RC makes a lot of money and the RC pays its employees very well once you get to a certain level.
I have come to the conclusion that most charities are a rip off and I don't donate money to them any more. I do donate my time and I will donate food and other items they ask for but no money.
About 10 years ago when I lived in Fayetteville NC there was a real bad Tornado that destroyed a good part of the town. I volunteered to help out. I had a chainsaw plenty of Gas and a 3/4 ton long bed 4x4 to haul stuff out. I have fairly extensive first aid knowledge and experience. I had a chains in the truck to pull stuff with, I had a good axe, shovel and plenty of gas. I even through on a case of water.
The Police told me to go home.
Then they got people out of their neighborhoods and would not let them back in. Even people who's house was fine.
I ended up taking in a family that I knew who lost everything. They stayed with me for 2 weeks and I helped him get what he could salvage out of his house and into and apartment.
That is when I was determined to move out of that place.
Andrew went up through Lafayette and really tore the place up bad, 140 mph winds etc.
So my buddy and I decided to go over there and help the people. We were real good with chain saws, we would go over and cut trees off of houses for free.
Storm hit Friday morning. At 4 pm I called Red Cross New Orleans. Now the storm did not hit New Orleans, it hit 90 miles west of there.
A guy answered the phone, I told him I wanted him to tell us where to go, who we should hook up with in LaFayette.
This Red Cross official was a little upset with me. He said "Look it is 4 pm on Friday. I am the last one in the office and I am going home. Call back Monday morning."
I said to him "A very powerful hurricane has just devastated your state, and y'all are going home for the weekend? You aren't worth a damn! You ought to be ashamed of yourself." And I hung up.
An hour later, called Salvation Army of New Orleans, you could hear a dozen people in that office, running around, giving direction for relief aid on the phones etc. Salvation Army guy was appreciatave and told us where to go etc.
We did go out there for a week and cut lots of trees off of houses for free. I could go on and on about how I saw the Salvation Army hard at work, and the Red Cross was a "no show" until it was time to take photos for propaganda.
I wouldn't give a dime to the Red Cross, but I do give to Salvation Army.
My uncle went down to NOLA after Katrina through a Lutheran Charities organization to cut trees also.
There was a group from a big Baptist church in Oklahoma. It was their ministry to go to these disasters and provide food.
So, they came down from Oklahoma with several RVs, and a big mobile kitchen. Had big propane powered grills, and these big 30 gallon stainless steel stew pots.
Had freezer units and generators to keep the meat cold.
So, they would cook up 30 gallons of boiled chicken, and 30 gallons of rice. They were set up in the parking lot of Wal Mart, which had just had its roof torn off.
There was no electricity for 40 miles in any direction so hot food was hard to come by.
The requirement for getting food was: You were hungry. You just got in line.
I tell you a big plate of chicken and rice sure tasted good.
I would be in line, right in front of me was the mayor of LaFayette, behind me was a police officer, behind him was some homeless guy.
This was the only place in town to get a meal, the mayor had no electricity either.
And FEMA and the Red Cross, right there the third and the fourth days after the storm hit, were no-shows.
So I was really impressed with the work done by these Christian organizations.
I do donate to the Salvation Army. A long time ago a girl I knew got pregnant (no not me). The Salvation Army took her in and did well taking care of her. I visited her and went out on an outing with her. There was the Salvation Army lady, me and 6-8 pregnant girls going to a movie. I got some strange looks.
A few decades later my youngest son was staying with his brother and looking for a job. I was getting hit up for money often. I believe every one that is able to work should work. After all even the Queen of England works. I know some people think smashing bottles on ship bows, dedicating libraries and Hospitals is not work but some body has to do it. So I tell my son each hour of work at Salvation Army is $10. So he worked at Salvation Army. He has a deep respect for the Salvation Army and so do I.
Add, United Way to the list of *-hats.
Company was proud to be 100% United Way with every one doing paycheck auto-debts. One of the guys, his house burns down, he, his wife and the 2 kids got out with the clothes on there backs. House totaled.
Their 2 cars were parked on the street.
Boss calls United Way and says we have a family that needs help. Told them all they have left is the clothes on their backs and the 2 cars.
The person on the phone total the boss to tell the family to sell one of their cars.
The next day, Unit Way was removed from the company and the money they were getting went to the family.
da' wife and I, only work with the local charity's, food drives and hands on helping.
That said it is hard to determine which charities are legit.
I would rather feed someone directly then give money to an organization where the leader is knocking down 650K!
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I've heard that before about Salvation Army versus Red Cross.
My uncle went down to NOLA after Katrina through a Lutheran Charities organization to cut trees also.
Yep, Church groups such as Samaritans Purse are doing far more on the ground. I do not donate to Red Cross or United Way. Any group pushed by the government is likely not the most efficient source of providing direct resources to the suffering.
When I was flooded out from months of rain and a hurricane in 09 the Red Cross came and offered us 40.00 dollars for food and shelter. We lost all our clothing and personal affects but I told them to keep their 40.00 dollars as they must need it worse than me for other people in the area in the same condition as we were. They said it was all they were allowed to give us. I will never give to United way or the Red Cross ever again.
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1954 a young private in the Army I had a death in the family. My CO was all for me to go home on emergency leave no problem after verifying the death. Had no money in no way would Red Cross help me, never forgot nor will I ever forget the refusal. My family helped took longer, but no Red Cross
A few days ago he posted a good video about how to help Texas. Lots of info.
The Red Cross can provide thousands of dollars worth of relief for millions of dollars.
The National Guard had showed up there, and hooked up a giant diesel generator. This church had a big gym with showers etc.
So, a hundred National Guard guys were posted there, and we stayed there at night, nice to get a shower.
Plus the people at the church would find people who needed trees cut off their houses, and give us those jobs, we cut the trees off for free.
Well after about 6 days, up came a shiny new Taurus. Out stepped the Red Cross lady in a nice suit, with a couple of helpers.
The helpers got out a big banner, two feet high, and fifteen feet long, it said RED CROSS DISASTER RELIEF. They strung it right across the front of the big church.
They got the preacher to stand before the big banner, he stood there with the Red Cross lady, and they took some photos. Then they left.
I said to the preacher, "What in the world? This is the first I have seen of the Red Cross."
The preacher said "This is the first I have seen of them.'
I said "You want us to tear down that banner?"
He said "Please do."
So we tore down the Red Cross banner and threw it away. They were front and center for the photo op, and then they were gone, probably back to a nice clean hotel room in New Orleans.
BKW
A good outfit.
This story is from one of my uncles. He was in the European theatre and it was in the middle of winter. They had been in miserable weather, were cold and tired. They came across a red cross set up with coffee and donuts. FOR SALE...
The news has been pushing donations to the Red Cross, haven't heard any push for Salvation Army or other organizations only Red Cross
This morning, didn't pay any attention if ABC or local source they mix it together, said Red Cross wants monetary contributions rather than material items easier to process. Hell yes easier to knock down and line the pockets of the upper echelon they are laughing on the way to the bank. One hell of a scheme
a Red Cross worker approached his cot and said he should write his mother and let her know he was alright.
She then offered to sell him paper at a penny a sheet and three cents an envelope..he also said they charged for donuts and coffee, and cigarettes..
He loved the Salvation Army...me too..when I shipped out to basic training in 1968...the Salvation Army handed everyone a bag with a toothbrush, paste and shaving gear...plus a small bible[:)]
I never pass up a Salvation Army kettle at Christmas time.
A bunch of celebrities are donating big bucks to the Red Cross.