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stupid question ....maybe

discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 2014 in General Discussion
can the 44 special/44 Russian be reloaded into 44 mag? just wondering not contemplating getting into reloaded YET!
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  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you are asking if the cartridge cases will fit into a.44 Mag chamber then yes they will.
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  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    .44 special and magnum have a bullet diameter of .432

    .44 Russian is .430


    so yes it would work, but using the Russian in a .44 magnum accuracy may be effected
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  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As Mark said they will chamber in any .44 Mag. But if you mean can they be reloaded to .44 Mag power levels the answer is no.
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  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ruger41
    As Mark said they will chamber in any .44 Mag. But if you mean can they be reloaded to .44 Mag power levels the answer is no.




    why can the bullet not be loaded into a .44 magnum case and .44 magnum loads ?
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    .44 special and magnum have a bullet diameter of .432

    .44 Russian is .430


    so yes it would work, but using the Russian in a .44 magnum accuracy may be effected

    I hope you mean .429 for the special and magnum, not sure where you got .432. the .001 fatter Russian bullet means nothing in real world applications.
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  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can't use 44 Magnum data in the Special or the Russian because they are smaller and the pressure will be higher than the same load in a 44 Magnum case.

    Some of the loads with the slowest powders probably just won't fit in the case either.

    You could probably find data that went up to 36000 PSI like a 44 Mag and the performance would be almost the same in a firearm with a shorter barrel. Such loads would use less powder than a 44 Mag. However they should never be fired in any firearm designed for 44 Special and 44 Russian because some guns may not be able to take 36000 PSI and some may take it but without an acceptable margin of safety.

    Before the 44 Mag came about in 1955, I think some shooters pushed some pretty hot loads through their 44 special revolvers but they probably worked up to them very carefully and for all we know they tried each higher load by finding a way to fire the gun remotely. They probably also had an eye for gun design or maybe friends in the Colt factory who knew what their guns could take. There's no guarantee a different 44 Special could take an extra heavy load.
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  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    that is what I was hoping to ask..... then I need to keep the various cases separate! THANKSquote:Originally posted by ruger41
    As Mark said they will chamber in any .44 Mag. But if you mean can they be reloaded to .44 Mag power levels the answer is no.
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  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a ruger superblackhawk 44 mag[1st pistol] so I have been plinking so far with the 44 special and 44 Russian ammo. saving the cases of course. I didn't know if the various casings could be reloaded into 44 mag. now I know thanks guys
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  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    .44 special and magnum have a bullet diameter of .432

    .44 Russian is .430


    so yes it would work, but using the Russian in a .44 magnum accuracy may be effected

    I hope you mean .429 for the special and magnum, not sure where you got .432. the .001 fatter Russian bullet means nothing in real world applications.




    according to lymans book

    you are correct .01 doesn't mean much unless you are specifically talking lead vs fmj
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  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
    .44 special and magnum have a bullet diameter of .432

    .44 Russian is .430


    so yes it would work, but using the Russian in a .44 magnum accuracy may be effected


    Check your fingers. .429-.430 for all
    RLTW

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