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Used John Deere pricing

Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
Been looking at getting a small tractor but since I've never bought one I'm not sure what prices are like. This looks to be about the size I want and on John Deeres site they base around $20-25K new. I don't need a new one since it will spend most of it's life parked and plugged into a battery tender.

What I need it for it pulling a brush hog and I want a bucket on the front so I can push/move snow and bust open the deep snow drifts we are plaugued with up here, this past winter I had to get a guy with a bobcat up here to open our road for us when it blew shut.

So I'm think a few years old, preferably pre-emissions but not a worn out one either. Something that is user friendly that she can run, pretty much a simple to operate and an old tractor would be difficult for her to run, she needs to be able to open the road when I'm not here.

Help arm me with knowledge, I hate paying to much and I need to be able to spot a good deal and one I need to bite my tounge and walk away from.


This is the size I'm after

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Comments

  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kubota and will cost a little less.

    Mine is set up just like this one.
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    Have a box blade to do the driveway, back blade that tilts so I can maintain the ditches. Set of forks that attach to the bucket I use for light loads. And the most used Item the brush hog.

    I got mine new but there are plenty of them for sale in this area for half what I paid. About $10,000 will get you a good one. Less will bring headaches.

    PS make sure it is 4 wheel drive. Mine walks right out of everything. Think I'm stuck, I just stomp down with my left foot on a pedal, that locks the diff and it will walk right out.
  • danielgagedanielgage Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    fastline.com

    or the magazine
  • danielgagedanielgage Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    John Deere is more expensive

    but have been worth it to me when I sold or traded them in for a newer one

    they hold their value better than any other in the U.S. anyway

    Kubota has really gained ground lately in the small tractors

    but nothing runs like a Deere
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by danielgage
    John Deere is more expensive

    but have been worth it to me when I sold or traded them in for a newer one

    they hold their value better than any other in the U.S. anyway

    Kubota has really gained ground lately in the small tractors

    but nothing runs like a Deere


    I want reliability. All I want to do is fill it with #1 diesel, hook up the block warmer and battery tender in the winter and know it will start any time when needed.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will say better operate them 1st.

    Not sure of John Deere. But Kubota Right pedal is used for direction control, aka Banana Pedal. Push forward goes forward how much you push also controls speed same for reverse. My Pet peeve is the bucket control, when hitting the Banana pedal for reverse your leg may and will hit the control for the bucket. Think you are taller than me so it would flat drive you nuts. But there is a control to lock the bucket in position.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by danielgage
    John Deere is more expensive

    but have been worth it to me when I sold or traded them in for a newer one

    they hold their value better than any other in the U.S. anyway

    Kubota has really gained ground lately in the small tractors

    but nothing runs like a Deere


    I want reliability. All I want to do is fill it with #1 diesel, hook up the block warmer and battery tender in the winter and know it will start any time when needed.


    Kubota no block heater, but there is a position on the key you must hold for 10 seconds. Had mine 2 years, never on battery tender and it will start every time even in the winter.
  • danielgagedanielgage Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by danielgage
    John Deere is more expensive

    but have been worth it to me when I sold or traded them in for a newer one

    they hold their value better than any other in the U.S. anyway

    Kubota has really gained ground lately in the small tractors

    but nothing runs like a Deere


    John Deere are the most reliable brand I am aware of



    I want reliability. All I want to do is fill it with #1 diesel, hook up the block warmer and battery tender in the winter and know it will start any time when needed.
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by danielgage
    John Deere is more expensive

    but have been worth it to me when I sold or traded them in for a newer one

    they hold their value better than any other in the U.S. anyway

    Kubota has really gained ground lately in the small tractors

    but nothing runs like a Deere


    I want reliability. All I want to do is fill it with #1 diesel, hook up the block warmer and battery tender in the winter and know it will start any time when needed.


    Kubota no block heater, but there is a position on the key you must hold for 10 seconds. Had mine 2 years, never on battery tender and it will start every time even in the winter.


    How cold does it get there? We see winter temps easily in the -20? and lower and winds that would make a sane person mad. It takes #1 diesel with anti gel added here to keep them from making jello in the tank and lines.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No in the negative Numbers but 0 deg does happen.

    You could always at a block heater, just I have not had the need.
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will it bust open hard packed snow drifts? That is our biggest issue up here in the winter. General snowplowing can be done with my pickup and a Meyer plow but those drifts would bend my frame. It took that bobcat over an hour to open 50 yards of a single lane dirt road that was snow packed from a drift.
  • patchnballpatchnball Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Definitely 4 wheel drive. Load the rear tires. get a snow blower for the rear to blow thru the drifts. Use bucket or front plow to do general plowing. 35 hp tractor will probably do what you need. Cab would make it nicer but also has a cost. Fastline or Tractorhouse will give you an idea of used costfor tractors.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I jut retired Monday as a John deere sales man almost all tractors now have hydro Transmissions I think that is the way to go the first digit of the current models is the Frame size sort of like types of Pick Up Trucks if first digit is a 1 it is a compact pick up if it is a 2 sort of like a 1/2 ton if 3sort of like 3/4 ton and if a 4 it is a duelly
    all John deere under 55 HP have Class one three point hitch the# one models can only handle a4ft BUSH HOG #2#3 can use a 5foot and #4can use a 6 Foot all have great loaders some loaders have quick connect you can attach and remove the whole loader quickly .To allow better vision just the bucketcan be removed very quickly 20 seconds and some allow very quick change over to Forks or other attachments They come with different types of tires Turf R$ and ag I like the R4 tires as it does not tear up yard like AG tires. if you are a seller the good part is they hold their value if buyer the bad part is they hold their value The orange tractors are good but have slow loaders that will not even pick up empty bucket with engine at Idle also HYdro foot pedal for reverse not user friendly feel free to double click on my user name and send me a message if you have questions
  • JimmyJackJimmyJack Member Posts: 5,516 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bought a Kubota and love it. Hogwash on a slow bucket! I loaded the tires and have a block heater, but never had to use it. Pops right off in N Wisc all winter with the glow plug.
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    I jut retired Monday as a John deere sales man almost all tractors now have hydro Transmissions I think that is the way to go the first digit of the current models is the Frame size sort of like types of Pick Up Trucks if first digit is a 1 it is a compact pick up if it is a 2 sort of like a 1/2 ton if 3sort of like 3/4 ton and if a 4 it is a duelly
    all John deere under 55 HP have Class one three point hitch the# one models can only handle a4ft BUSH HOG #2#3 can use a 5foot and #4can use a 6 Foot all have great loaders some loaders have quick connect you can attach and remove the whole loader quickly .To allow better vision just the bucketcan be removed very quickly 20 seconds and some allow very quick change over to Forks or other attachments They come with different types of tires Turf R$ and ag I like the R4 tires as it does not tear up yard like AG tires. if you are a seller the good part is they hold their value if buyer the bad part is they hold their value The orange tractors are good but have slow loaders that will not even pick up empty bucket with engine at Idle also HYdro foot pedal for reverse not user friendly feel free to double click on my user name and send me a message if you have questions


    Is a 3 big enough for what I need?

    These drifts here can get over 5' sometimes if left unchecked and they pack hard. I tried smashing through one with the Pete that was only 2' and with tire chains that sumbitch sunk as soon as the drives hit the pack.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IMHO a 3 is BIG enoughI use the front mounted loader to get a bucket load and then take a dump it come back and get another bucket full It is no way you can push a 5 foot packed blockage but you can scoop it and transport. the more weight Wheel or suitcase type the better but weights are over a dollar a pound [V]
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    IMHO a 3 is BIG enoughI use the front mounted loader to get a bucket load and then take a dump it come back and get another bucket full It is no way you can push a 5 foot packed blockage but you can scoop it and transport. the more weight Wheel or suitcase type the better but weights are over a dollar a pound [V]


    Ok, going from a 3 to a 4 is a substaintial hike in price.

    How long ago did John Deere start with this BS emissions crap? How far did they go with it? Do they have a DPF on them now?
  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,283 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Regardless of the brand you go with get it with a front mounted snow blower. Way easier to operate than backing into the drifts. My SIL has one on a little Kubota and it really eats the snow.
  • MBKMBK Member Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought a Mahindra Max last year. They beat everybody on price and have a 10 year warranty.

    Worth a look.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    Regardless of the brand you go with get it with a front mounted snow blower. Way easier to operate than backing into the drifts. My SIL has one on a little Kubota and it really eats the snow.


    This^^^^

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqBJS4XGe0
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    John Deere did not START the tier 4 Crap it is going to be the Law on anything sooner rather than later big tractors that are used but before the last rules are selling for more that they sold for when new
  • chollagardenschollagardens Member Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tractor; I have both John Deere and Kubota. The Deere I have had, the Kubota is recent. So far I like the Kubota much more.

    Dealership; In my opinion the Kubota dealership is better than the Deere Dealership but I am comparing a Az Dealership to a Ca dealership.

    Repairs; If I remember correctly Deere wanted over $1,000 to make my fuel gauge work again[:(!]
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i had a kubota la350 and it was a work horse, i have only had JD lawn tractors with fair results, i believe there is a cover charge just to get into the dealer for parts, they are like owning a harley everything's minimum 100 dollars
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    quote:Originally posted by danielgage
    John Deere is more expensive

    but have been worth it to me when I sold or traded them in for a newer one

    they hold their value better than any other in the U.S. anyway

    Kubota has really gained ground lately in the small tractors

    but nothing runs like a Deere


    I want reliability. All I want to do is fill it with #1 diesel, hook up the block warmer and battery tender in the winter and know it will start any time when needed.


    Kubota no block heater, but there is a position on the key you must hold for 10 seconds. Had mine 2 years, never on battery tender and it will start every time even in the winter.


    How cold does it get there? We see winter temps easily in the -20? and lower and winds that would make a sane person mad. It takes #1 diesel with anti gel added here to keep them from making jello in the tank and lines.


    My New Holland 1920 started in Alaska. I used #1 diesel a oil pan heater and a block heater. It started at 25 below no problem.
  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Only thing wrong with a Kubota is that they only come in orange! A farm store friend told me that the only parts they ever have to sell for a Kubota is the oil filter.
    Whatever you get, be sure to get the 4WD version with the locking rear differential. Makes a world of difference when bucking drifts.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by truthful
    Only thing wrong with a Kubota is that they only come in orange! A farm store friend told me that the only parts they ever have to sell for a Kubota is the oil filter.
    Whatever you get, be sure to get the 4WD version with the locking rear differential. Makes a world of difference when bucking drifts.


    After 20 years in the Marines wearing green I can say the same thing for John Deere.[:D]
  • remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The big problem with buying a used one, is that they hold their dog on value so much that a five-year-old one because she only about $2000 less but a new one. And the new when you get free financing, which brings the new one down to about the same price as a five-year-old one
  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a JD 3720 with cab. I'm in ND and get about the same temp snow as you. It has always started even without being plugged in, even the -20 or so that you mention.

    I have a rear mounted snowblower that clears anything including drifts taller than the tractor. The loader works great for scraping the driveway and piling the snow up higher. I have to clear alot, the school bus wants me to clear a huge area that he can drive a loop to drop the kids off and I clear an area for the semis and fuel truck driver to get to the bulk plant we have on this farm.

    Skidsteers are handy for moving snow but you can do alot more with a tractor in my opinion, mowers,tillers etc are better, cheaper and work better with a tractor than a skidsteers.(yes moving snow with the bucket is easier with a skidsteer but that is one of the very few things a skidsteer is better at)

    I did have the turbo go out a year after I bought it three years ago but warranty covered it and was probably my fault, not plugged in super cold out I may have not let it warm up enough. Maybe.

    My 3720 with cab and 3500 pound loader was $42000 I think. Add a set of pall forks for $700 and the snowblower was about $3500 I think. Love that little guy.

    Btw, I basically live in a 9460 all day seeding this time of year, kinda the other end of the spectrum.
  • arraflipperarraflipper Member Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having a dealer close by for support and parts is one thing to remember. Go sit on a few machines, not the same as operating for a few days but you will get a like or dislike. I have been watching for a used 55 hp with a loader with skidsteer type quick attach bucket. I sat on a Kubota, and right away knew I didn't want one. Who ever designed the loader control must of forgotten you will have you foot on the pedal to go forward or backwards when operating. I couldn't lift the loader arm with my foot on the pedal. I also didn't like the pedal, having to push down with your heal is not nearly as handy as two pedals side by side. I also wanted the loader to be able to lift high enough to load my dump truck. Good luck!
  • danielgagedanielgage Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    getting used to a John Deere

    is like getting used to indoor plumbing

    once you do you don't want to go back to using the outhouse
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