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Negro Bicycle Troops in 1870s Montana

dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 2017 in General Discussion
I fell into this topic in a book I was reading this week. It sounded interesting to me so I Googled it and found out that in the 1870s the Army decided to test bicycles to replace horses as bicycles don't eat![:D] Literally. That was part of the thinking. Since the Negro soldiers were much more expendable then the white soldiers back then the Negro soldiers were chosen for this experiment.

These were steel wheeled bikes. Oh my that must have been a joy to ride cross country since most of the ride was off road. If there was a road it would have been an unimproved pot holed maybe muddy mess.

So a group of Negro soldiers set off from Montana heading for St. Louis riding 1,900 miles in 41 days. Let's not forget this was before conveniance stores, motels and restaurants. These soldiers were way more man than I ever was on the best day of my life.

The army decided this was a failed experiment but I know enough about horses to know that without quite a few extra horses for the soldiers to ride never would the same number of horses and riders set out on a 1,900 mile 41 day trip and all riders/horses make it all the way.

Just an interesting little nugget of interesting history I thought I would pass on. More info plus pictures on line.

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  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bet none of them had kids after that ride.
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Started the trip at Fort Missoula, and it was during the 1890s.

    25thregiment_bicycles.jpg

    At Yellowstone.
    Buffalo.jpg
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  • dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    1870s, 1890s, I was kinda sorta close. Kinda sorta close is really good for me!![:D]
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
    Started the trip at Fort Missoula, and it was during the 1890s.

    25thregiment_bicycles.jpg

    At Yellowstone.
    Buffalo.jpg
    Notice the enclosed chain guards..?...and the white overseer...
  • dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OMG, I just did the math, 46 miles per day!!! 46 miles!!! There is not a horse in the universe that could do 46 miles per day for 41 straight days even with a support staff carrying feed, shoes etc. WOW!!
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting. Must have been a grueling ride.
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  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie

    Notice the enclosed chain guards..?...and the white overseer...



    Notice the rifles on the back of each soldier in the first picture..?... and what appears to be the lack thereof carried by the white guy?...??..?...???.....?

    Never mind the fact that the chain guards were used to keep dust and debris away from the chains, and that the "white overseer" was likely the post surgeon.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That was a silly idea other than to see if it could be done.
    No chuck wagon, ammo caissons, water barrels, baby howitzers, and everything else required for a functioning combat unit would need truck transport and that wouldn't be available for another 20 or so years.

    The French and Germans had bicycle units later on, but with trucks too and they used regular roads.
  • SperrySperry Member Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 35 Whelen
    At Yellowstone.
    Buffalo.jpg


    Mammoth Hot Springs. Bet'cha caint do that now.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I rode a bicycle about that far in 1976, from central Georgia to Steamboat Springs Colorado.
    Modern roads, lots of corner pantries to buy canned chili and beer, nice modern 10 speed bike. That was a tough trip, I was making about 75 miles a day.

    These guys, on those primitive bikes on goat paths, making 41 miles a day? Those were a bunch of bad *. Damn.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Combat would have been a relief to them [;)]

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