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I am sure some of you will agree with this shootin
Waco Waltz
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But I've seen the police fire into a moving car that was not targeting anyone before. Kinda give away the play in their hands on this one.
ANOTHER UNARMED CITIZEN GUNNED DOWN IN MEDFORD
> Carl F. Worden
> January 13, 2012
>
> Twenty year-old Jimmy Georgeson was wanted by Federal Agents for
> violating his parole for assaulting a federal officer. The incident stemmed from a
> raid on a house in which federal agents were looking for another person
> when they stumbled upon Georgeson hiding in a bathroom and chock-full of
> Ecstasy. Out of his mind on the illegal drug, Georgeson got into a scuffle
> with the federal agent who opened the bathroom door.
>
> Georgeson had a criminal history preceding the incident, all involving
> drugs or thefts in support of his drug habit, but prior to the assault
> incident, Jimmy had no history of violent behavior.
>
> So Jimmy Georgeson stopped complying with the terms of his parole and a
> federal arrest warrant was issued. His family had been encouraging him to
> turn himself in, but the kid hadn't done so. That was when federal agents
> showed up at Jimmy's mother's home, asking his whereabouts and suggesting
> she slip Jimmy some Xanax or something similar to calm him down so the agents
> could take him into custody. Unfortunately for Jimmy, he never came to
> his mother's home before being surrounded in the crowded and busy parking lot
> of an Albertson's Grocery Store in West Medford.
>
> Nobody other than the federal agents involved in Jimmy's death knows
> exactly how the agents found Jimmy in a parked vehicle in the Albertson's
> parking lot, but I strongly suspect the agents had obtained Jimmy's cell phone
> number and used it to locate him. Regardless of how they located Jimmy,
> Jimmy was not aware of their presence until they confronted him, sitting
> behind the wheel of his vehicle.
>
> According to local news reports, Jimmy tried to drive away and was
> blocked by a federal vehicle. He apparently hit the vehicle trying to drive
> away, and that is when the federal agents opened up on Jimmy with guns,
> shooting him in the chest and head and killing him almost instantly.
>
> The federal shooters are claiming they were in fear for their lives
> because Jimmy allegedly tried to hit them, but witness accounts vary, and
> Jimmy's passenger insists Jimmy was never trying to hit anyone.
>
> We may never know the entire truth of this shooting because the Medford
> Police Department is the lead investigative agency, and as has been
> demonstrated time after time, the Medford cops are as corrupt as the grave where it
> comes to defending a fellow law enforcement agent of any kind from being
> prosecuted for an illegal use of deadly force.
>
> Here's the way the game is played: The Medford cops will put together a
> report that justifies the use of deadly force and present it to the equally
> corrupt District Attorney, who will convene a Grand Jury to hear the
> case. The corrupt DA will tell the Grand Jury in a secret hearing that if the
> feds truly believed they were in mortal danger from Jimmy behind the wheel,
> they had the right to use deadly force to stop him. The federal agents
> will then walk in and tell the Grand Jury that they sincerely believed, with
> big alligator tears flowing, that they were in imminent danger of death or
> serious injury from Jimmy and his vehicle. The stupid Grand Jury will then
> return no bill, which means they found nothing wrong with the shooting and
> the federal agents will get off Scot-free, with little fear of a civil
> lawsuit because the Grand Jury has spoken.
>
> That exact scenario has been played out here in the Rogue Valley time
> after time, so I see no change in behavior occurring in this case.
>
> The SOM (Southern Oregon Militia) has interviewed a few witnesses, but we
> honestly cannot say Jimmy didn't deserve to be shot because we don't have
> any access to the evidence found in the parking lot, specifically the
> location of the spent shells ejected from the feds' guns, which would point to
> the locations of the agents when they began firing at Jimmy. In other
> words, were they in the direct path of harm from Jimmy and his vehicle, or did
> they just use the excuse that Jimmy was behind the wheel of a potentially
> deadly weapon even though they were not in direct danger from him and it?
>
> What we CAN state with absolute certainty is that the shooting was
> entirely avoidable.
>
> It is important to remember that the federal agents had the element of
> surprise in their favor. They had somehow located Jimmy and his vehicle
> and placed him under surveillance. They did NOT have to attempt an arrest in a
> busy parking lot with Jimmy sitting behind the wheel. In fact, police are
> trained to specifically avoid any possible collateral damage when they are
> trying to arrest a person with a known violent past, and true
> professionals in law enforcement would never have considered making an arrest of such
> an individual in that environment.
>
> Give me a break: What if Jimmy had a gun and was prepared to use it?
> The feds had no way of knowing if Jimmy was armed when they approached his
> vehicle! What if Jimmy had a fully loaded AR-15 handy? How many innocent
> bystanders walking to and from their vehicles could have been killed or
> injured in the ensuing fire fight?? The fact that the federal agents chose to
> arrest Jimmy in that busy parking lot at that time (5:00 PM) was an act of
> reckless disregard for the lives and welfare of the citizens, and that
> happens to be a criminal act in the State of Oregon.
>
> There is no question that the federal agents screwed up and that their
> actions were exclusively responsible for the needless death of Jimmy
> Georgeson, even if their use of deadly force was justified AFTER they tried to
> arrest him. What they should have done is follow Jimmy and the vehicle to a
> location where few or no other citizens were, and make their arrest once
> Jimmy was out of the vehicle, in the open and vulnerable.
>
> That is what good cops are trained to do. The problem is that here in
> the Rogue Valley, good cops, federal or local, are very hard to find.
>
> As it turns out, Jimmy Georgeson was unarmed except for his vehicle, and
> whether the federal cops were justified in shooting him after creating the
> whole tragedy themselves by their wrongful actions, we may never really
> know. I wonder if Albertson's had a security camera that would show what
> really did happen? Georgeson's family needs to find out and secure a copy of
> the video feed right away, but I'll bet the Medford cops have already
> secured it if it exists.
>
>
> Carl F. Worden
> Liaison Officer
> Southern Oregon Militia
ANOTHER UNARMED CITIZEN GUNNED DOWN IN MEDFORD
> Carl F. Worden
> January 13, 2012
>
> Twenty year-old Jimmy Georgeson was wanted by Federal Agents for
> violating his parole for assaulting a federal officer. The incident stemmed from a
> raid on a house in which federal agents were looking for another person
> when they stumbled upon Georgeson hiding in a bathroom and chock-full of
> Ecstasy. Out of his mind on the illegal drug, Georgeson got into a scuffle
> with the federal agent who opened the bathroom door.
>
> Georgeson had a criminal history preceding the incident, all involving
> drugs or thefts in support of his drug habit, but prior to the assault
> incident, Jimmy had no history of violent behavior.
>
> So Jimmy Georgeson stopped complying with the terms of his parole and a
> federal arrest warrant was issued. His family had been encouraging him to
> turn himself in, but the kid hadn't done so. That was when federal agents
> showed up at Jimmy's mother's home, asking his whereabouts and suggesting
> she slip Jimmy some Xanax or something similar to calm him down so the agents
> could take him into custody. Unfortunately for Jimmy, he never came to
> his mother's home before being surrounded in the crowded and busy parking lot
> of an Albertson's Grocery Store in West Medford.
>
> Nobody other than the federal agents involved in Jimmy's death knows
> exactly how the agents found Jimmy in a parked vehicle in the Albertson's
> parking lot, but I strongly suspect the agents had obtained Jimmy's cell phone
> number and used it to locate him. Regardless of how they located Jimmy,
> Jimmy was not aware of their presence until they confronted him, sitting
> behind the wheel of his vehicle.
>
> According to local news reports, Jimmy tried to drive away and was
> blocked by a federal vehicle. He apparently hit the vehicle trying to drive
> away, and that is when the federal agents opened up on Jimmy with guns,
> shooting him in the chest and head and killing him almost instantly.
>
> The federal shooters are claiming they were in fear for their lives
> because Jimmy allegedly tried to hit them, but witness accounts vary, and
> Jimmy's passenger insists Jimmy was never trying to hit anyone.
>
> We may never know the entire truth of this shooting because the Medford
> Police Department is the lead investigative agency, and as has been
> demonstrated time after time, the Medford cops are as corrupt as the grave where it
> comes to defending a fellow law enforcement agent of any kind from being
> prosecuted for an illegal use of deadly force.
>
> Here's the way the game is played: The Medford cops will put together a
> report that justifies the use of deadly force and present it to the equally
> corrupt District Attorney, who will convene a Grand Jury to hear the
> case. The corrupt DA will tell the Grand Jury in a secret hearing that if the
> feds truly believed they were in mortal danger from Jimmy behind the wheel,
> they had the right to use deadly force to stop him. The federal agents
> will then walk in and tell the Grand Jury that they sincerely believed, with
> big alligator tears flowing, that they were in imminent danger of death or
> serious injury from Jimmy and his vehicle. The stupid Grand Jury will then
> return no bill, which means they found nothing wrong with the shooting and
> the federal agents will get off Scot-free, with little fear of a civil
> lawsuit because the Grand Jury has spoken.
>
> That exact scenario has been played out here in the Rogue Valley time
> after time, so I see no change in behavior occurring in this case.
>
> The SOM (Southern Oregon Militia) has interviewed a few witnesses, but we
> honestly cannot say Jimmy didn't deserve to be shot because we don't have
> any access to the evidence found in the parking lot, specifically the
> location of the spent shells ejected from the feds' guns, which would point to
> the locations of the agents when they began firing at Jimmy. In other
> words, were they in the direct path of harm from Jimmy and his vehicle, or did
> they just use the excuse that Jimmy was behind the wheel of a potentially
> deadly weapon even though they were not in direct danger from him and it?
>
> What we CAN state with absolute certainty is that the shooting was
> entirely avoidable.
>
> It is important to remember that the federal agents had the element of
> surprise in their favor. They had somehow located Jimmy and his vehicle
> and placed him under surveillance. They did NOT have to attempt an arrest in a
> busy parking lot with Jimmy sitting behind the wheel. In fact, police are
> trained to specifically avoid any possible collateral damage when they are
> trying to arrest a person with a known violent past, and true
> professionals in law enforcement would never have considered making an arrest of such
> an individual in that environment.
>
> Give me a break: What if Jimmy had a gun and was prepared to use it?
> The feds had no way of knowing if Jimmy was armed when they approached his
> vehicle! What if Jimmy had a fully loaded AR-15 handy? How many innocent
> bystanders walking to and from their vehicles could have been killed or
> injured in the ensuing fire fight?? The fact that the federal agents chose to
> arrest Jimmy in that busy parking lot at that time (5:00 PM) was an act of
> reckless disregard for the lives and welfare of the citizens, and that
> happens to be a criminal act in the State of Oregon.
>
> There is no question that the federal agents screwed up and that their
> actions were exclusively responsible for the needless death of Jimmy
> Georgeson, even if their use of deadly force was justified AFTER they tried to
> arrest him. What they should have done is follow Jimmy and the vehicle to a
> location where few or no other citizens were, and make their arrest once
> Jimmy was out of the vehicle, in the open and vulnerable.
>
> That is what good cops are trained to do. The problem is that here in
> the Rogue Valley, good cops, federal or local, are very hard to find.
>
> As it turns out, Jimmy Georgeson was unarmed except for his vehicle, and
> whether the federal cops were justified in shooting him after creating the
> whole tragedy themselves by their wrongful actions, we may never really
> know. I wonder if Albertson's had a security camera that would show what
> really did happen? Georgeson's family needs to find out and secure a copy of
> the video feed right away, but I'll bet the Medford cops have already
> secured it if it exists.
>
>
> Carl F. Worden
> Liaison Officer
> Southern Oregon Militia
Comments
if the Feds keep going the way they are going, an awful lot more people will be in jail for "assaulting" Fed-cops...I'm just saying it as I see it
In the old days you got your head knocked about and released. Today they make a federal case out of everything.