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Made in Vietnam

Oso2142Oso2142 Member Posts: 2,940
edited March 2013 in General Discussion
I've noticed that more and more stuff is coming out of Vietnam, and I wonder how you guys feel about it?

I suppose the best way to kill (not literally, big figuratively) a communist is by injecting them with a good dose of capitalism.

Anyway, I am concerned about the feelings of those who fought over there, or lost loved ones, over there. Or, anybody.

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  • Bubba Jr.Bubba Jr. Member Posts: 8,303 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well look what happened with Germany and Japan. We went and in dumped a lot of money to get them back on their feet, and for years they supplied us with really good and not so good merchandise. I guess Vietnam isn't any different.
  • CDMeadCDMead Member Posts: 2,141 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyP_I6pc88E

    Forward to about 30 seconds for the immortal Jim Backus....
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,718 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That was a long time ago. We all like German engineering and Japanese electronics. I agree with the capitalism thing though.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • rscoleman88rscoleman88 Member Posts: 4,250
    edited November -1
    At work, they give us shirts etc as rewards for safety/quality milestones. There are a few Vietnam vets that work here, if they see Made in Vietnam on the shirts, they immediately file them under G. I've never worn mine, I don't wear any company logos, they end up at Salvation Army but those who wear them say they are poor quality.
  • kissgoodnightkissgoodnight Member Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Won't buy anything made there.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,494 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm a Vietnam vet, and seeing products made there actually warms my heart. Why? Because it shows that WE WON.

    The folks we fought with got to know us, got to see the wealth we all took for granted, and came to realize that our prosperity didn't come from collectivism, but from capitalism. Even though Vietnam is nominally a communist country today, in reality it is a thriving nation of individual businessmen doing everything they can to become like the US soldiers they and their parents remember.

    Freedom won. Our way of life won. WE won.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Oso2142Oso2142 Member Posts: 2,940
    edited November -1
    The other night, we were at Wally World, and they had some really nice shrimp, 12 ounces for $5.00. IIRC, peeled, deveined, and a decent size, for that $5.00.

    However, I turned over the bag, and they were imported from Vietnam. [xx(][xx(][xx(]

    Some of the products, that are for the home, for example, seem to be GTG.

    But, honestly, I don't know what to think.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Oso2142
    I've noticed that more and more stuff is coming out of Vietnam, and I wonder how you guys feel about it?

    I suppose the best way to kill (not literally, big figuratively) a communist is by injecting them with a good dose of capitalism.

    Anyway, I am concerned about the feelings of those who fought over there, or lost loved ones, over there. Or, anybody.



    When I saw a Can of fruit made in Viet Nam I bought it then when I went to work I informed the NAM vet I worked with that the Viet Nam war had finally been won.
  • the middlethe middle Member Posts: 3,089
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    I'm a Vietnam vet, and seeing products made there actually warms my heart. Why? Because it shows that WE WON.

    The folks we fought with got to know us, got to see the wealth we all took for granted, and came to realize that our prosperity didn't come from collectivism, but from capitalism. Even though Vietnam is nominally a communist country today, in reality it is a thriving nation of individual businessmen doing everything they can to become like the US soldiers they and their parents remember.

    Freedom won. Our way of life won. WE won.


    Or you cold look at it this way......


    "The capitalist will hang themselves, and WE will sell them the rope!"

    Lenin
  • bartman45bartman45 Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most all scopes use glass which was manufactured with sand from Vietnam, as they have the quality needed to produce high quality optics.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by Oso2142
    I've noticed that more and more stuff is coming out of Vietnam, and I wonder how you guys feel about it?

    I suppose the best way to kill (not literally, big figuratively) a communist is by injecting them with a good dose of capitalism.

    Anyway, I am concerned about the feelings of those who fought over there, or lost loved ones, over there. Or, anybody.



    When I saw a Can of fruit made in Viet Nam I bought it then when I went to work I informed the NAM vet I worked with that the Viet Nam war had finally been won.


    What was his response?
    What's next?
  • getinvolvedgetinvolved Member Posts: 528 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    I'm a Vietnam vet, and seeing products made there actually warms my heart. Why? Because it shows that WE WON.

    The folks we fought with got to know us, got to see the wealth we all took for granted, and came to realize that our prosperity didn't come from collectivism, but from capitalism. Even though Vietnam is nominally a communist country today, in reality it is a thriving nation of individual businessmen doing everything they can to become like the US soldiers they and their parents remember.

    Freedom won. Our way of life won. WE won.


    Good points. I lost my brother over there.
  • PTHEIMPTHEIM Member Posts: 3,374
    edited November -1
    I'm 43 and for decades I hated on the little guy until recently (lasy 15yr).

    I've had to assemble patio furniture from there (it didn't always fit together right) and realised (epiphany moment?) that they were doing what we did almost 300yr ago.
    I recently watched a program where a group of vets took a vacation back to the 'NAM and was surprised to see how well they're doing without 'our help' today.

    I feel they wanted to govern themselves how they wanted and didn't need the rest of the world's input, including OURS.

    I too have co-workers who served over there and others who lived during those days and still and will hate them to their final days.
    I've had co-workers and met WWII and Korean conflict vets who still hate their foes after all these years.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    58000 names and the WALL..and still finding & identifying remains...i can't see how we won anything worthwhile ..much less a frickin hat
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "I've noticed that more and more stuff is coming out of Vietnam"

    Absolutely, VietCom stuff is almost as common as chinese, a lot of textile imports.
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
  • 1911builderMarine1911builderMarine Member Posts: 48 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    58,000+ dead Americans, 300,000+ wounded, an entire generation of veterans scarred and scorned because of their choice to serve their country when called.

    Runaway inflation caused by taxes on taxes, deficit spending that has resulted in the impoverishment of future generations yet unborn.

    Racial and student riots by the score, draft deferments for the entitled children of the politicians.

    MIA's and POW'S butchered, tortured and mistreated.....

    And you wonder why I despise Vietnam and the communist regime???

    Charles.
  • rscoleman88rscoleman88 Member Posts: 4,250
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    quote:Originally posted by rscoleman88
    At work, they give us shirts etc as rewards for safety/quality milestones. There are a few Vietnam vets that work here, if they see Made in Vietnam on the shirts, they immediately file them under G. I've never worn mine, I don't wear any company logos, they end up at Salvation Army but those who wear them say they are poor quality.


    Dare I hazard a guess that the folks you refer to are union?

    I'll bet their reasoning has little to do with the Vietnam conflict itself and everthing to do with their disdain for non-union / foriegn labor practices.




    While this is a union plant, not everyone here belongs. Including these guys. They just won't have anything to do with Vietnamese made products.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the HVAC trade we have sheet metal machines made in Vietnam called Tinnocker. They are cheap knock offs of a better brand and are basically junk. Low quality made products. I have one piece and had to send it back three times until I finally got one that would work. This is my only experience with Vietnam or any products that came from there that I know of.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The fastest way to free someone is hope and prosperity. The fastest way to enslave someone is prosperity and hope. Go figure.
  • evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i've seen a show where the fish and shrimp come from, NO THANKS.

    i will keep catching my own.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,494 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Folks, I never said that war didn't cost us. I don't know of a single one of my many brothers who wasn't scarred in some way - including me. But the higher the price, the sweeter the victory, perhaps.

    It took a while for it to happen, and nobody wanted to hear about it when it did happen. But today, Vietnam is thriving, Cambodia is recovering, and Laos is on its way. For the first time in well over a hundred years, that whole region is war-free.

    We won. It's just that simple.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • footlongfootlong Member Posts: 8,009
    edited November -1
    ''Mechanix Gloves'' --The 0fficial gloves of NASCAR are made in viet nam [:(]
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Buddy of mine who saw a lot of combat there is kind of a mix. Forgive and forget and hates the little black pajama wearing midgets with a passion. They would slaughter their own villagers down to the babies to make a political statement.

    I do not buy anything from them.
  • JnRockwallJnRockwall Member Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dad was there for a year and some of his best Cinch shirts are made there.

    Most of my great uncles fought in ww2 or korea and most of their kids drives a car made in germany, japan or Korea.

    You would think buying a car from the same people who were shooting at your dad would be a little weird.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Retired Army Officer: DHS Must Surrender Their War Weapons to Dept. of Defense
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, March 24, 2013, 10:51 AM

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/retired-army-officer-dhs-must-surrender-their-war-weapons-to-dept-of-defense/

    Captain Terry M. Hestilow, United States Army, Retired (Examiner)
    On Saturday March 23, Terry M. Hestilow, a retired Army officer with nearly 30 years of service under his belt, posted this letter he sent to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) this week. Hestilow wants DHS to hand over their war weapons to the Department of Defense.

    The Honorable Senator John Cornyn, State of Texas
    United States Senate
    517 Hart Senate Office Building
    Washington, D.C. 20510

    Re: Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and that agencies preparation for war against citizens of the United States of America

    Dear Senator Cornyn,

    It is with gravest concern that I write to you today concerning the recent appropriation of weapons by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that can only be understood as a bold threat of war by that agency, and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America. To date, DHS has been unwilling to provide to you, the elected representatives of the People, justification for recent purchases of almost 3,000 mine-resistant ambush-protected (MRAP) armored personnel carriers, 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (with associated weapons), and other weapons systems, when, in fact, the DHS has no war mission or war making authority within the limits of the United States of America.

    Significant is the fact that at the same time the Obama administration is arming his DHS for war within the limits of the United States against the People of the United States in accordance with his 2008 campaign speech claiming, "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've gotta (sic) have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded [as the United States military]"-Candidate Barack Obama, 2008.

    The Obama administration is deliberately defunding, overextending, and hollowing the Department of Defense; the only legitimate agency of the U.S. government with a war mission.

    This act of the Obama administration stands as a glaring threat of war against our nation's citizens! This act of the Obama administration can only be understood as a tyrannical threat against the Constitution of the United States of America! If left unresolved, the peace loving citizens who have sworn to defend the United States Constitution "against all enemies, both foreign and domestic" are left no option except to prepare to defend themselves, and the U.S. Constitution, against this Administration's "coup" against the People and the foundations of liberty fought for and defended for the past 238 years. We have no choice if we honor our oaths.

    The only proper response to this threat against the American people is for the representatives of the People, the members of the U.S. House and Senate, to demand in clear terms that the Administration cannot ignore, that the Department of Homeland Security immediately surrender their newly appropriated weapons of war to the Department of Defense (DoD). Further, since the DHS has assumed a position in the Administration to enforce the tyrannical acts of this president against the People of the United States against the limits of the United States Constitution, it remains for the United States Congress to exercise its limiting power in the balancing of powers established by our founding fathers, to disestablish and dissolve the DHS as soon as possible. One needs only to look to the rise of Adolf Hitler, and his associated DHS organizations, the SA and the SS, of 1932-1934, to see the outcome of allowing an agency of government this kind of control over the free citizens of a nation. The people of Germany could not have imagined, until it was too late, the danger of allowing a tyrant this kind of power. We must not be so na?ve as to think it will not happen to us as well if we remain passive toward this power grab by the Marxist Obama administration!

    Finally, for more than two centuries the nation has lived in peace at home because of the protections of our legitimate military and the many appropriate state and federal law enforcement agencies, supported by Constitutional courts. We stand today at a cross-road. Will we allow this present Administration to overthrow our United States Constitution and its legal processes to amend injustices, or, will we honor our obligations to defend the Constitution against a "domestic" enemy? Our Constitution lays out the proper methods of resolving our differences; and it does not include its overthrow by a rogue agency of a Marxist leadership at home. You, sir, are our constitutionally elected agent to defend our Constitution at home. We are counting upon you. We remain aware, however, of this present threat and will not expose ourselves as an easy prey to the authors of the destruction of our nation.

    I know that this letter demands much of you. We elected you because we, the citizens of the State of Texas, believe that you are up to the task at hand and will, against all threats, honor your oath and office. We are also writing to your fellow members of the House and Senate to stand in integrity with the Constitution and against this present threat by the Obama administration and his DHS.

    We refuse to surrender our Constitution or our nation!

    Resolved,

    Captain Terry M. Hestilow
    United States Army, Retired
    Fort Worth, Texas
    March 23, 2013
    What's next?
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by Oso2142
    I've noticed that more and more stuff is coming out of Vietnam, and I wonder how you guys feel about it?

    I suppose the best way to kill (not literally, big figuratively) a communist is by injecting them with a good dose of capitalism.

    Anyway, I am concerned about the feelings of those who fought over there, or lost loved ones, over there. Or, anybody.



    When I saw a Can of fruit made in Viet Nam I bought it then when I went to work I informed the NAM vet I worked with that the Viet Nam war had finally been won.


    What was his response?


    Don't really recall in detail. He asked why was that and I told him, he kinda shrugged it off.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Should never be forgotten that North Viet Nam invaded the South.
  • BGHillbillyBGHillbilly Member Posts: 1,927 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    Should never be forgotten that North Viet Nam invaded the South.
    Obviously the 'North' part is the real problem here has been for 3 wars.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by Oso2142
    I've noticed that more and more stuff is coming out of Vietnam, and I wonder how you guys feel about it?

    I suppose the best way to kill (not literally, big figuratively) a communist is by injecting them with a good dose of capitalism.

    Anyway, I am concerned about the feelings of those who fought over there, or lost loved ones, over there. Or, anybody.



    When I saw a Can of fruit made in Viet Nam I bought it then when I went to work I informed the NAM vet I worked with that the Viet Nam war had finally been won.


    What was his response?


    Don't really recall in detail. He asked why was that and I told him, he kinda shrugged it off.


    That might have been the polite thing to do.
    What's next?
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The way of the world. After WWII we started doing business with Germany and Japan. Almost every thing I saw in the dime stores as a kid in the late '40s and '50s said Made in Japan.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by kimi
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by Oso2142
    I've noticed that more and more stuff is coming out of Vietnam, and I wonder how you guys feel about it?

    I suppose the best way to kill (not literally, big figuratively) a communist is by injecting them with a good dose of capitalism.

    Anyway, I am concerned about the feelings of those who fought over there, or lost loved ones, over there. Or, anybody.



    When I saw a Can of fruit made in Viet Nam I bought it then when I went to work I informed the NAM vet I worked with that the Viet Nam war had finally been won.


    What was his response?


    Don't really recall in detail. He asked why was that and I told him, he kinda shrugged it off.


    That might have been the polite thing to do.


    How so? I am thinking maybe you do not understand what I meant by saying the war had been won.
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