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Henry survival rifles

Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
edited September 2012 in General Discussion
Who here has one? Let's see them. Do you like it? What's the good/bad trade off on it?
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
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  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, Mr. -P-I will answer you,,I like them,,I have a Charter and an Henry- For what they are they serve a purpose- When I hike around our father in Laws property, they were the easist to pack,,and mine functioned well..I made a homemade strap deal and its the berries to have as you don't know its there.[:)]
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    What are the differences between the Charter and the Henry?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • poppaleepoppalee Member Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I asked around and got back bad feedback by AR-7 owners, so I went with: Ruger 10-22 stainless taledpwm. Glad I did.

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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by poppalee
    I asked around and got back bad feedback by AR-7 owners, so I went with: Ruger 10-22 stainless taledpwm. Glad I did.

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    I like that one too, but it doesn't store as compact as the henry, does it?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • poppaleepoppalee Member Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not as compact. I would say twice the space. But still half the length of standard 22. But it is stainless and I find I love it.
    I do not know what your circumstances my be. I do not backpack, but if I did, a 22 in my pack would be kinda useless to me.
    Your milage may vary.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by poppalee
    Not as compact. I would say twice the space. But still half the length of standard 22. But it is stainless and I find I love it.
    I do not know what your circumstances my be. I do not backpack, but if I did, a 22 in my pack would be kinda useless to me.
    Your milage may vary.

    I'm not wholly sure exactly my use for it, but I was thinking the more compact the better. Does the Henry not come in stainless?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • poppaleepoppalee Member Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe a Henry survival rifle person will know if the gun comes in stainless. If it did, I would reconsider one. Don't know if I would buy one, but I would give it a 2nd look.
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I could never get over the metal lined plastic barrel of the Henry.
    Threads on the barrel are plastic too.

    Seemed too cheap for me whenever I've handled them.

    They might be just fine.

    Think I'd rather have a Marlin Papoose or that new Ruger.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm kind of interested in the Ruger 10/22 TD myself.
    Don't know a thing about the Henry's though.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by drobs
    I could never get over the metal lined plastic barrel of the Henry.
    Threads on the barrel are plastic too.

    Seemed too cheap for me whenever I've handled them.

    They might be just fine.

    Think I'd rather have a Marlin Papoose or that new Ruger.
    I believe that is not an issue on the newer ones... that they are all metal now, but I haven't handled one yet.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by drobs
    I could never get over the metal lined plastic barrel of the Henry.
    Threads on the barrel are plastic too.

    Seemed too cheap for me whenever I've handled them.

    They might be just fine.

    Think I'd rather have a Marlin Papoose or that new Ruger.
    I believe that is not an issue on the newer ones... that they are all metal now, but I haven't handled one yet.


    At one point they had a plastic barrel model that was silver in color. Still plastic though.

    That reminds me I bought a Norinco copy of a Browning take down 22 from Locust Fork last year. Fun gun. Loads from the buttstock.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All I see on their site is black or camo.
    Also states this,....."Teflon coated receiver and coated steel barrel."

    Sure seems more compact than the Ruger.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, for its intended purpose,,I am ok with the plastic, My Charter is pot or whatever metal,had it 20 years ,,maybe shot 2-3 hunderd times,,no probs.
    Henry is a later "improved" version of the Charter...as always, I am usually wrong here as many have pointed out,,but thats my prefernece
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    All I see on their site is black or camo.
    Also states this,....."Teflon coated receiver and coated steel barrel."

    Sure seems more compact than the Ruger.
    I was just looking at that on this auction:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=307791104

    I believe the nut that attaches the bbl is steel now, though. Can't figure why they just don't go with stainless. Cost??
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    All I see on their site is black or camo.
    Also states this,....."Teflon coated receiver and coated steel barrel."

    Sure seems more compact than the Ruger.
    I was just looking at that on this auction:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=307791104

    I believe the nut that attaches the bbl is steel now, though. Can't figure why they just don't go with stainless. Cost??

    I would imagine cost, and weight are the reasons since this is for a niche market per se.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Ruger remains in two pieces and has it's own 'duffle' bag so to speak.

    This is surely more compact, and lighter.
    Guess you would have to call Henry to find out about that barrel nut, as I can't find anything about it being metal.

    It's also cheaper than the Ruger.
    If you happen to buy one, let me know what you think. I wouldn't mind having one just in case.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    The AR-7 is teflon coated, apparently thats cheaper than using stainless.

    If it's just compact you are loking for the keltec sub 2000 is about 1/2" shorter, about 2" wider and about 1lb heavier than the AR-7.

    Or if you just want it in 22lr, theres the keltec SU-22 as well. Its a tad longer, heavier and wider, but at least it seems a little more solid, higher mag capacity and will take an optic while folded.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The threaded barrel nut is metal. The Metal barrel is housed in ABS plastic. They have black or Camo only.

    Since there is plastic involved you won't want to rapid fire it more then a Magazine's worth before letting it cool off.

    I did pick up sub sonic rounds for mine, I got the Henry last week.
    Sub sonic rounds will work cooler in the rifle but I cannot recall if they can cycle a semi auto.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=572479&SearchTerms=AR-7,questions

    It's going to be stored in my SUV. It won't rust and I could not keep anything in my SUV without risking rust so I decided I should pick one up.

    It's a limited Rifle but better then nothing for all purposes. I've fired the charter arms and handled the Henry. You can store 3 mags in the Henry and only two in the Charter. The Charter is going to be more expensive since they are not made any more. If all you want is a survival rifle best way to go for economy is the Henry.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    Mark, these guys discuss it some, starting at about 7:29

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0dRoot__Rc&feature=g-user-u

    Looks like there is a metal "key" that replaces what was previously plastic, to align the barrel. Can't tell what the nut is made out of but I would guess it's metal too.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    The threaded barrel nut is metal. The Metal barrel is housed in ABS plastic. They have black or Camo only.

    Since there is plastic involved you won't want to rapid fire it more then a Magazine's worth before letting it cool off.

    I did pick up sub sonic rounds for mine, I got the Henry last week.
    Sub sonic rounds will work cooler in the rifle but I cannot recall if they can cycle a semi auto.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=572479&SearchTerms=AR-7,questions

    It's going to be stored in my SUV. It won't rust and I could not keep anything in my SUV without risking rust so I decided I should pick one up.

    It's a limited Rifle but better then nothing for all purposes. I've fired the charter arms and handled the Henry. You can store 3 mags in the Henry and only two in the Charter. The Charter is going to be more expensive since they are not made any more. If all you want is a survival rifle best way to go for economy is the Henry.
    Good info Waco.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Mark, these guys discuss it some, starting at about 7:29

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0dRoot__Rc&feature=g-user-u

    Looks like there is a metal "key" that replaces what was previously plastic, to align the barrel. Can't tell what the nut is made out of but I would guess it's metal too.

    I'm gonna get me one![:)]
    BTW,...the Ruger weighs 4.67 pounds if that matters.

    I just prefer the Henry, as I can shove it under my rear truck seat, and forget about it if I want to. Surely cheap enough for its purpose.

    Not only that, I already have a regular 10/22.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=308238307

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=308289326

    Getting all the cheap ones listed![:D]
    Buy me one! [:D]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How does that go,.....Pffttt?[;)]

    That second one is a good deal, but I'm going to check with my regular FFL first.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    I got an email flyer last week where someone had them on sale, I think it was CDNN
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Sure is a lotta speculation being taken as Gospel out there.
    Never could figure out what "key" that might be plastic that aligns the barrel might be; there is a metal tab that goes into the slot in the receiver...

    To sum it up; "i had heard about one from somebody that said they were jam-o-matics, or plastic, or clunky, so I didn't get one for a third the price of the (fill in appropriate mfr. name here), because I got a (fill in appropriate mfr. name here) from somebody bad-mouthing Walmart, and it shoots OK for what it is. Guess I'll toss it in the truck for several years and be shocked that it don't shoot good enough when I finally dig it out from under 4 years' worth of beer cans."
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gunnut505
    Sure is a lotta speculation being taken as Gospel out there.

    Out where?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    How does that go,.....Pffttt?[;)]

    That second one is a good deal, but I'm going to check with my regular FFL first.
    Here's a long video that covers it in a lot more depth than the other one. Enjoy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfDfy0nrQWo&feature=related
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Riomouse911Riomouse911 Member Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The biggest difference between the 10-22 take-down and the AR-7 is stowability (AR-7 completely in the stock, 10-22 in two parts)and the AR-7 floats when stowed if you end up using it on a raft or otherwise get dunked. I used to plink with an original Charter AR-7 and found it OK, but not great, reliability-wise and on paper.

    IMO the 10-22 is more reliable and accurate, and is built for the more serious shooter. AR-7 more of a "stow it a lot and use it a bit in any weather" type gun.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    How does that go,.....Pffttt?[;)]

    That second one is a good deal, but I'm going to check with my regular FFL first.
    Here's a long video that covers it in a lot more depth than the other one. Enjoy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfDfy0nrQWo&feature=related


    Yep, a long video, but I watched it.

    That was enough to convince me to spend a little over 200 bucks, for something I can toss under my truck seat, and not worry about.

    What happened here?
    You were looking to buy,.....I have never given one a passing thought.

    Why am I planning on buying one now, and no word from you?[:0][;)]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    How does that go,.....Pffttt?[;)]

    That second one is a good deal, but I'm going to check with my regular FFL first.
    Here's a long video that covers it in a lot more depth than the other one. Enjoy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfDfy0nrQWo&feature=related


    Yep, a long video, but I watched it.

    That was enough to convince me to spend a little over 200 bucks, for something I can toss under my truck seat, and not worry about.

    What happened here?
    You were looking to buy,.....I have never given one a passing thought.

    Why am I planning on buying one now, and no word from you?[:0][;)]
    I will likely get one, just not today. If I bring home another gun in the next couple months I think my marriage might end LOL!
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We need to get Travis (shootuadeal) to find out what his best price would be for a 'group' buy of these.[:)]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    For the improvement in accuracy and reliability, with a weight that is within a few ounces and the only disadvantage being that it doesn't reduce in length, but is short enough to fit in or on most backpacks, I would opt for a good used Remington Nylon 66.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had one of the jam-o-matic Charter Arms one. Even when it worked accurate would not be a term I would use to describe it. The trigger is an abomination & the sights are terrible.
    I have a Taurus Model 62 takedown (copy of the old Winchester) that even if it is an old design is light years ahead in terms of reliability & accuracy.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    We need to get Travis (shootuadeal) to find out what his best price would be for a 'group' buy of these.[:)]


    If you can get a good enough group buy deal I might want two more. It's almost Xmas time and I could always use one to pre position in the FEMA camps they will send me too :)
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    X-MAS?? Is that an author chosen abreviation or has the program added political correctness to it's list of profanity substitutions?
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ray B
    X-MAS?? Is that an author chosen abreviation or has the program added political correctness to it's list of profanity substitutions?


    I did not want to offend anyone :P
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    Oh- I wouldn't have suspected you had yielded to that trait based on previous posts[;)][;)]
  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am out combining right now but when I get home tonight I'll see what I can do. I had my salesman at the store check price and it looks like about 240 shipped without checking around. I'll see later if I can get the price lower.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's pretty hard to beat what they sell for in town due to shipping.
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