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interesting story on the Orlando Shooting

redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭
edited September 2018 in General Discussion
https://www.propublica.org/article/pulse-shooting-orlando-tragedy-response-plan

by Abe Aboraya, WMFE Sept. 26, 5 a.m. EDT
This article was produced in partnership with WMFE, which is a member of the ProPublica Local Reporting Network

The Orlando Fire Department had been working on a plan for just such a situation for three years. Like many fire departments at the time, Orlando had long relied on a traditional protocol for mass shootings, in which paramedics stayed at a distance until an all-clear was given



After a recommendation from Saez in 2015, the department bought about 20 of the bulletproof vests and helmets. The vests had pouches filled with tourniquets, special needles to relieve bleeding in the chest, and quick-clotting trauma bandages.

In the three and a half years before the shooting, bureaucratic inertia had taken hold.

None of that equipment was used at Pulse. Emergency medical professionals stayed across the street from the club. And the bulletproof vests filled with life-saving equipment sat at headquarters.

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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The only "bulletproof" vests are Level III, & I don't know of any fire department that issues them. And, even a vest with ceramic plates won't save you from a well placed shot.

    If a scene is safe enough to bring in paramedics, it's safe enough for the police to wheel in stretchers & pack up the wounded. That should take less training than instructions for giving Narcan.

    Neal
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,660 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Our local SWAT team has fire dept. paramedics that are trained up on the entry team. They have full armor and are armed with their sidearms. They're the last ones in the door, but they are in the door.
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    redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    Our local SWAT team has fire dept. paramedics that are trained up on the entry team. They have full armor and are armed with their sidearms. They're the last ones in the door, but they are in the door.


    good for them taking on the higher risk of doing that job, hats off to them
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