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9mm sucks
LaidbackDan
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for putting down livestock, the neighbor let me know just before he put down a very old mare who was unable to eat anymore and was starving to death that he was going to put her down. seven shots followed by five more.
I'm bummed
I'm bummed
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And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
People think you shoot right between the eyes. Its actually a couple inches higher.
It tears me up to see something possibly suffer.
The Thompson-LaGarde Tests were a series of tests conducted in 1904 to determine which caliber should be used in new military handguns. The US Army's fighting men had considerable difficulty stopping the Moro warriors and other combatants with the .38 Long Colt, and the Army began to consider the problem.
The task was assigned to Colonel John T. Thompson of the Infantry, and Major Louis Anatole LaGarde of the Medical Corps. The tests were conducted at the Nelson Morris Company Union Stock Yards in Chicago, Illinois, using both live cattle outside a local slaughterhouse, as well as some human cadavers. Several different calibers were used during the tests: .476 Eley (UK), 7.65x22mm Parabellum (.30 Luger), 9x19mm Parabellum (Germany), .38 Long Colt, .38 ACP, .45 Colt (US) and the .455 Webley (UK).
The first day of testing involved eight live cattle; seven were shot through the lungs using different caliber rounds, and the effects recorded. The remaining animal was shot through the intestines with the .476 Eley. If the animal took too long to die, it was put down by a hammer blow to the head. Results were highly variable due to differences in shot placement, round types, animal size, and the number of times the animal was shot, according to Day/Velleux.[1]
For the second day, the test procedures were changed so that each animal would be rapidly shot in the lungs until the animal had died or 10 rounds had been fired. For this test, five to ten animals were used (LaGarde said sixteen cattle and two horses were shot,[2] Day/Velleux says thirteen cattle[1]). Again, results were highly variable, and weapon jamming also contributed to the variability this time, according to Day/Velleux.
The cadaver tests were conducted by suspending the body, and measured the sway caused when the body was shot from different distances. As the suspended body constituted a ballistic pendulum, this measured the relative momentum of the rounds to some extent.
Sounds like his shot placement sucks.
+1
and one of the few times a FMJ is best.
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Yup!
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
know what he was doing.
Bet if you could see the horse, it's head would look like it had been
shot with a shotgun with holes all over the place.
If you gonna do something, do it right or get someone to do it for you
that knows what he's doing.
No excuse for crap like that.
The spot I was taught was at the intersection of two lines. One drawn from each eye to the base of the opposite ear. That forms an X a few inches above eye level.
Google, "Captive Bolt Stunner", and go to images.
That is the spot to hit.
Always a rifle, usually a .30-30.
There should be no need for more than one shot.
Imagine an X between the ears and eyes. Shoot the center of the X. If you shoot one "between the eyes" it will completely miss the brain. 9 mm is plenty.
This^^^^^X2
Used my Single six with the magnum cylinder at about 2 feet using the imaginary X that my dad taught me.
He went right down, but I gave him another 'cause no one wanted to go into the trailer and chain him up to the hoe without being sure he was dead.
My late Grandfather used this 1905 Colt Army Special to put down hundreds of hogs & cattle on his ranch in the 1940's & '50's. Load used was 158 grain lead roundnose. He never needed more than 1 shot.
I worked in a slaughter house in Idaho many years ago.
I was in the freezer pushing and storing sides of beef for the night so they could be cut down the next day.
Anytime I heard the meezcans yelling, I would then see them run and climb anything they could while followed by a bull that "woke up" after it had been "knocked".
There would be someone dressed in full dirt bike gear with a shotgun sent to find and deal with him.
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
how many actually hit the poor beast?!?
tom
quote:seven shots followed by five more
how many actually hit the poor beast?!?
tom
It was hard to hit after the first one make it upset.
I will give it a few days, I'm sure he's not feeling very good about the situation right now.
I'm not sure what went wrong, I know he had to put a cow down last week and all I heard was a single shot.
I will give it a few days, I'm sure he's not feeling very good about the situation right now.
Brain on horse is much higher in the head so if you shoot between the eyes it will just stand there bleeding thru the mouth.
Poor horse last few seconds where horrible.
Capt. Jack Sparrow.
I feel for the horse, a sad ending. [:(]
I had to put a crippled old goat down once. Their skulls are so thick that the frontal head shot wasn't an option. I shot it through the heart/lungs with a 158gr .357, it went down quickly.
I feel for the horse, a sad ending. [:(]
Its the back of the head for Goats.
Pretty big doe about 150 pounds. She looked up at me, pleading with those big eyes for help.
I shot her once in the neck with the 9mm with Chinese military hardball ammo. Lights out, she didn't even twitch.
I think that ammo would have worked fine on a horse.
I watched them many times when we took animals over and never saw them need a second shot.
Shot placement.
quote:Originally posted by Spartacus
quote:seven shots followed by five more
how many actually hit the poor beast?!?
tom
It was hard to hit after the first one make it upset.
yeah, very hard to hit when theyre running..
tom
He musta gut shot her........
He must have Butt shot her!