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She says Trumps election is the last nail in

CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭
edited February 2017 in General Discussion
the European Union's coffin.

Marine Le Pen France's 2017 presidential candidate, I believe she'll win and be the first continental leader to drop out of EU and start deporting Muslims.
She says the EU and the Euro currency is are liberal tools to brutalize
European peoples.
If any of you speak the language you will find her speech in Germany very eloquent and well thought out, if you do not it has subtitles and you will find it equally interesting and worth watching it's only 23 min.


We have to fight so we can run away.
Capt. Jack Sparrow.

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  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Love her and her name!
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 10,983 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Of course I would like to see her win, but France has been electing DEMOCRAT progressives longer than most other countries in EU.

    Under progressive control, France has been bringing in Muslims for so long, they represent a huge voting block.

    If Charles Martel and Charlemagne were to see what has become of France, they would roll over in their grave.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 12,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    If Charles Martel and Charlemagne were to see what has become of France, they would roll over in their grave.


    It would be a safe bet that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson have been doing back flips in their graves for many many years.
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    Of course I would like to see her win, but France has been electing DEMOCRAT progressives longer than most other countries in EU.

    Under progressive control, France has been bringing in Muslims for so long, they represent a huge voting block.

    If Charles Martel and Charlemagne were to see what has become of France, they would roll over in their grave.




    Voting block ? Voting laws are a little different over there, socialist went very far on liberal French vote, but French liberals too are feeling the muslim noose tightening around their lives, lets see what happens in the next elections. I bet you didn't listen to her[V]

    PS we cant brag about a spotless record ourselves, remember JFK, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and look at us now.
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    Of course I would like to see her win, but France has been electing DEMOCRAT progressives longer than most other countries in EU.

    Under progressive control, France has been bringing in Muslims for so long, they represent a huge voting block.

    If Charles Martel and Charlemagne were to see what has become of France, they would roll over in their grave.




    I've been watching French (and other European) truck drivers deal with Muslim invaders blocking roads, trying to steal their goods, and assaulting them on Youtube.
    The Scandinavians still tolerate it, but the low countries have had a belly full, especially the French. They carry jack handles and hammers in their trucks too.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,925
    edited November -1
    Many commentators say the E.U. is finished if Marine Le Pen wins. She's an underdog but so was Trump.

    A majority of the world is not happy including the French,, about a lot of things.

    Check out the reasons she MIGHT WIN in this article.
    https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/eur/5967-marine-le-pen-can-t-win-the-french-presidency-really

    Sound familiar ?
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,807 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CoolhandLuke
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    Of course I would like to see her win, but France has been electing DEMOCRAT progressives longer than most other countries in EU.

    Under progressive control, France has been bringing in Muslims for so long, they represent a huge voting block.

    If Charles Martel and Charlemagne were to see what has become of France, they would roll over in their grave.




    Voting block ? Voting laws are a little different over there, socialist went very far on liberal French vote, but French liberals too are feeling the muslim noose tightening around their lives, lets see what happens in the next elections. I bet you didn't listen to her[V]

    PS we cant brag about a spotless record ourselves, remember JFK, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and look at us now.


    JFK was a conservative compared to the last 30 years of liberalism.
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    quote:Originally posted by CoolhandLuke
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    Of course I would like to see her win, but France has been electing DEMOCRAT progressives longer than most other countries in EU.

    Under progressive control, France has been bringing in Muslims for so long, they represent a huge voting block.

    If Charles Martel and Charlemagne were to see what has become of France, they would roll over in their grave.




    Voting block ? Voting laws are a little different over there, socialist went very far on liberal French vote, but French liberals too are feeling the muslim noose tightening around their lives, lets see what happens in the next elections. I bet you didn't listen to her[V]

    PS we cant brag about a spotless record ourselves, remember JFK, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and look at us now.


    JFK was a conservative compared to the last 30 years of liberalism.


    JFK a conservative ? because of his direct actions he perpetuated a despotic communist regime that still stands just 90 miles from our shores.

    PS I recently traveled to Europe and the anti muslim invasion sentiment is stronger than ever and growing, A couple times I joined now legal night patrols by groups of citizens, they even have trained attack dogs. In Italy even the Romani gypsies are being expelled and they are EU citizens.
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 10,983 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CoolhandLuke
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    quote:Originally posted by CoolhandLuke
    quote:Originally posted by chiefr
    Of course I would like to see her win, but France has been electing DEMOCRAT progressives longer than most other countries in EU.

    Under progressive control, France has been bringing in Muslims for so long, they represent a huge voting block.

    If Charles Martel and Charlemagne were to see what has become of France, they would roll over in their grave.




    Voting block ? Voting laws are a little different over there, socialist went very far on liberal French vote, but French liberals too are feeling the muslim noose tightening around their lives, lets see what happens in the next elections. I bet you didn't listen to her[V]

    PS we cant brag about a spotless record ourselves, remember JFK, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and look at us now.


    JFK was a conservative compared to the last 30 years of liberalism.


    JFK a conservative ? because of his direct actions he perpetuated a despotic communist regime that still stands just 90 miles from our shores.

    PS I recently traveled to Europe and the anti muslim invasion sentiment is stronger than ever and growing, A couple times I joined now legal night patrols by groups of citizens, they even have trained attack dogs. In Italy even the Romani gypsies are being expelled and they are EU citizens.


    In my EU travels, over 30yrs ago they were non existent in Germany, GB, SW, Austria. They were already numerous in FR large cities and small pockets in Benelux. Fast forward to 2010's and growth is exponential.

    A mathematician could easily determine the spread of Islam in Europe is exponentially proportional to the years DEMOCRATs are in control.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 12,161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Great post, great speech. Thanks for the post. [^]
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750
    edited November -1
    Outstanding speech.

    Reawakening nationalism in Europe is a wonderful goal. She's right, Germans should be Germans, French should be French.
    It's no different in the states. An Alabamian is different from a Pennsylvanian and it should be so.

    She touched on another point that the people at one end of Europe should not be making the laws for people at the other end of Europe.
    Roe v. Wade proves that right here in America and goes right back to states rights.

    I know Americans are not French, but I wish Mr. Trump spoke as eloquently as Mdm. Le Pen how nationalism is a good thing.
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,317 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CoolhandLuke
    the European Union's coffin.

    Marine Le Pen France's 2017 presidential candidate, I believe she'll win and be the first continental leader to drop out of EU and start deporting Muslims.
    She says the EU and the Euro currency is are liberal tools to brutalize
    European peoples.
    If any of you speak the language you will find her speech in Germany very eloquent and well thought out, if you do not it has subtitles and you will find it equally interesting and worth watching it's only 23 min.






    I C&P the OP post and forwarded it to my friend from Belgium who now/has lived in the USA as a citizen for quite some time and still maintains contact with friends 'over there'.

    This is the response I received:

    "She is very capable politically speaking, articulate; I heard speech she made on Brit TV.
    She has transformed that party from extreme right to more acceptable far right party by keeping her father out who held anti semitic views. He is quite old now.
    She has a good chance, but I am not sure she can win because French are contrarians and if she wins the first round end of April, they may go for the left. The left is fractured right now - there are the candidates who participated in the primaries and there are 2 outsiders.


    The left is fractured yet they voted in for their side a far left guy who wants universal income at birth - something like $800 per month per person born in France. Even my friend Mxxxx who votes left in Belgium thinks that is unrealistic.


    We both like Francois Fillon on the right (Right does not compare to Republicans here - it is left of our GOP, more liked Democrats here) but his wife is in that scandal of fictitious income so that may advance Le Pen, still I have the feeling that French will either go all out left or go for Fillon.


    There is a first vote end of April, then a second round in May, and the other smaller candidates will probably reunite around one candidate.
    Marine Le Pen right now has 25% of the right, and Fillon 21%, and the rest spread out among 4 or 5 other candidates, so after the first vote I think on April 27th then they'll see where they are and many may gather around Fillon if Le Pen has advantage.
    I have watched many programs and no one really knows - even Mxxxx who is attuned to politics thinks Le Pen could win.
    Mxxxxx lives in France but can't legally vote there as she is Belgian.


    Mxxxxx says that in France people don't necessarily vote for their party - they are less ideological and just go for the person they like -
    I do think there is great unease with EU, I have to say that it could create chaos if France left the EU now because other smaller countries might follow and with the Russians always encroaching and creating unstability - that may not be the best thing for the population of those countries now or for Nato or US.


    If too many countries go for exit now, that would create mayhem so I hope Francois Fillon wins in France. I think the guy to the left Benoit Hamon could ruin the country and Le Pen too in another way. I don't think she can deport anyone that easily as long as they are in EU and it might not make much difference.
    The problem in France is that the people are second or third generations Arabs or Muslims so they are there to stay.


    Can you imagine if the far left guy Benoit Hamon is voted in and actually goes for the universal income at birth - they'll be inundated with more immigrants!"

    Presented for what it's worth.
    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I do not agree with your friend, any country that drops out with conservative government will be better off starting with the muslime invasion problem, and complete disintegration will affect countries like Greece and Rumania but in the long run the majority will benefit.
    It's been proven socialism destroys countries.

    The Dutch conservative candidate is sure to win in 2017 then Holland is out, then watch the EU sand castle crumble.
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
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