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Defense: No Confederate Flags on Soldiers Graves

MBKMBK Member Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭
edited July 2015 in General Discussion
The Defense dept says no Confederate flags on Soldiers graves.

?

Aren't some of their markers incorporating Confederate Insignia?
What flag can they use? North and the Rainbows?

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  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It was also voted by the U.S. House of Representatives as an amendment to a Interior Dept. Bill.


    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/07/ban_confederate_flags_at_feder.html

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/247171-house-votes-to-ban-confederate-flags-at-federal-cemeteries

    Rep. Jared Huffman's (D-Calif.) amendment to the 2016 Interior Department spending bill seeks to end a policy that allows a temporary display of the flag in cemeteries under the jurisdiction of the National Park Service. It sailed through on a voice vote after minimal discussion on the House floor that encountered no opposition.

    The ignorance of this is astounding.

    Confederate soldiers, even in Military Cemeteries can no longer be identified by the flag under which they died?

    This is knee-jerk legislation at its very worst.

    The Amendment was sponsored by a Democrat. There was no opposition to it during discussion on the floor, and it apparently received resounding support in the voice vote. Is there no principled majority or even a significant minority that can see the danger in this?

    Tell me again why I should vote for a member of either major party.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    don't we have US flags on other countries soil even in Germany and Japan. I hope those countries ban them. This PC stuff has to quit somewhere
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,521 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What the hell are they trying to do.. start another Civil War.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,366 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hope so I am tired of the BS they keep shoveling out to us

    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    What the hell are they trying to do.. start another Civil War.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Taliban destroys statues of Buddha.

    Iswas destroys non sunni historical sites in Iraq.

    Random muslims overturn British headstones in a military cemetery near Tripoli.

    The U.S. Government, in a rare moment where both parties work together, seems to have decided to deface Civil War era headstones.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This past Memorial Day I passed through a state park and saw an old cemetery with an equal number of US and Confederate flags posted.

    I expect it'll be the same next year.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MBK
    The Defense dept says no Confederate flags on Soldiers graves.

    ?

    Aren't some of their markers incorporating Confederate Insignia?
    What flag can they use? North and the Rainbows?


    Strange, but even then, our Confederate dead are buried in their own town and city cemeteries, not the cemeteries of the park service, except for as I recall those buried on General Lee's former property at Arlington National Cemetery . So, it will be things as usual at all Confederate gravesites with the flags, and more likely than not for those buried at Arlington as well with Confederate Flags marking their resting places for the world to see.
    What's next?
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    It was also voted by the U.S. House of Representatives as an amendment to a Interior Dept. Bill.


    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/07/ban_confederate_flags_at_feder.html

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/247171-house-votes-to-ban-confederate-flags-at-federal-cemeteries

    Rep. Jared Huffman's (D-Calif.) amendment to the 2016 Interior Department spending bill seeks to end a policy that allows a temporary display of the flag in cemeteries under the jurisdiction of the National Park Service. It sailed through on a voice vote after minimal discussion on the House floor that encountered no opposition.

    The ignorance of this is astounding.

    Confederate soldiers, even in Military Cemeteries can no longer be identified by the flag under which they died?

    This is knee-jerk legislation at its very worst.

    The Amendment was sponsored by a Democrat. There was no opposition to it during discussion on the floor, and it apparently received resounding support in the voice vote. Is there no principled majority or even a significant minority that can see the danger in this?

    Tell me again why I should vote for a member of either major party.


    He's what I'd refer to as a certifiable SOB. As a matter of fact, I'd no doubt add an extra adjective to such a description for him. And that goes for any SOB that would vote for passage of what I call a hate crime in and of itself.
    What's next?
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    What the hell are they trying to do.. start another Civil War.




    we are already in a "cold" civil war


    just too many people have their heads up their azzes to realize it
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GOP moves to overturn Confederate flag limits

    By Jamie Dupree

    In a surprise, Republicans late Wednesday moved to overturn limits on the sale and display of the Confederate flag that had been approved a day earlier by the U.S. House, setting up a showdown vote for Thursday on whether the National Park Service should allow sales of the flag and on how the Confederate flag should be displayed at certain federal cemeteries.

    The move was unexpected, coming as lawmakers were quietly finishing debate on a spending bill that covers operations of the National Park Service.

    Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA), the lead Republican on the measure, had been giving final wrap-up remarks about the legislation, when he suddenly interrupted his own speech to offer an amendment that would nullify several actions taken by the House on Tuesday related to the Confederate flag.

    "This amendment will codify existing National Park Service policy and directives with regard to the decoration of cemeteries and concessions sales," Calvert said hurriedly, speaking for less than ten seconds about his plan.

    The move left the main Democrat on the bill clearly stunned.
    "I cannot hide my surprise and my outrage that we find ourselves here tonight," said Rep. Betty McCollum (D-MN), who seemed totally caught off guard at the GOP effort to overturn votes from a day earlier on the Confederate flag.

    McCollum went to Twitter minutes later to slam Republicans:

    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/national/gop-moves-overturn-confederate-flag-limits/nmttR/
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  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Abolish the flags everywhere.
    Tear down all CSA monuments.
    Completely obliterate from history the whole "unpleasantness".

    Then you have to do the same in the North. After all, any reminder of such unpleasant times is hurtful to the senses of people. So wipe it all out and everything will be so much better and pleasant and un-offensive.
    Then, black folks can find other reasons to slaughter each other and burn and riot. Maybe they find out whose ancestors were selling their own people into slavery in Africa and get revenge on them. A nice car tire around the neck and some gasoline does wonders for one's ego. Maybe they realize Muslims started the slave trade and burn all the Mosques. Maybe they find out whose ancestors in New England owned the slave ships, and built the ships, and forged the chains, etc. And if they happened to have streets and schools and statues of any of them, they need to go too.

    Then maybe all the @#$#*&^&*@ people in the North will stop thinking they are so superior to anyone from the South, because bringing people here to be slaves is the reason they were slaves. So the WBTS was caused by slavers and their ships, from the North.
    Silly Yankees, it was all your fault all the time. Don't you feel better now?

    And I didn't even mention that the point was cotton, cheap cotton for the North's cotton mills. You know, the ones that used mostly child labor, and European immigrants, harsh treatment and low pay, dangerous working conditions that caused many deaths of young girls and children who ran the North's cotton mills on cheap Southern cotton. Cotton picked by slaves brought to the South on Northern ships?
    You hypocritical basstards.
  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is a designated Confederate cemetery here in Little Rock. I wonder what they will do with that? They also do CW reenactments in parks around AR. Will they be shut down?
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  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Doc
    There is a designated Confederate cemetery here in Little Rock. I wonder what they will do with that? They also do CW reenactments in parks around AR. Will they be shut down?


    Doc, I was thinking that some Confederate soldiers were inteered in national cemeteries and that Little Rock was one of them. I think there might be a Confederate cemetery in Chattanooga as well that might be on federal property too.
    What's next?
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did I refer to them as snakes?! Check out how they slither around:

    Palazzo calls out sleight-of-hand tactics by U.S. House Dems over flag
    Palazzo not happy with move to ban Confederate flag in federal cemeteries




    The Coast's congressman disagrees with a House vote that could ban the display of Confederate flags at historic federal cemeteries in the Deep South.

    The low-profile move came Tuesday evening after a brief debate on a measure funding the National Park Service, which maintains 14 national cemeteries, most of which contain graves of Civil War soldiers.

    Rep. Steven Palazzo said he doesn't like the amendment on the flag or the way it was handled.

    "I strongly oppose the inclusion of this amendment, which was slipped into the bill in the dead of night with no debate," he said in an emailed statement. "Congress cannot simply rewrite history and strip the Confederate flag from existence. Members of Congress from New York and California cannot wipe away 150 years of Southern history with sleight-of-hand tactics. I will fight to ensure that this language is not included in any bill signed into law."

    http://yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/41611/
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  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    Got me wondering what's gonna happen to the Nathan Bedford Forrest Museum or any of the Confederate Cemeteries between Manchester & Nashville.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gunnut505
    Got me wondering what's gonna happen to the Nathan Bedford Forrest Museum or any of the Confederate Cemeteries between Manchester & Nashville.

    Not sure about the museum, but the Memphis City Council seems intent on digging up his grave...

    http://www.localmemphis.com/story/d/story/council-votes-to-move-nathan-bedford-forrests-rema/12440/x-aa6bzx80iy91LMR_yQ-g

    Do the members of the city council live somewhere? Might be worth a visit and ask them just how far they are intending to go to mollify the Racial Rabble.
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