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New TN Gun Laws !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OK :
New TN Laws :
People in the military : 18 - 20 may receive a TN Carry Permit .....
Life-Time TN Carry Permits now $200 ........
Its Getting Better & Better !!!!!!!!!
Thanks !!!
New TN Laws :
People in the military : 18 - 20 may receive a TN Carry Permit .....
Life-Time TN Carry Permits now $200 ........
Its Getting Better & Better !!!!!!!!!
Thanks !!!
The more people I meet : The more I like my Dog :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I Grew Old Too Fast (And Smart Too damn Slow !!!) !!!
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I Grew Old Too Fast (And Smart Too damn Slow !!!) !!!
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OK :
New TN Laws :
People in the military : 18 - 20 may receive a TN Carry Permit .....
Life-Time TN Carry Permits now $200 ........
Its Getting Better & Better !!!!!!!!!
Thanks !!!
I thought this was gonna be bad news. Thanks for the update. Sounds good.
Nor pay a back ground check fee every time we make a purchase.
We should not have to pay 200 bucks for a the right to carry.
Nor pay a back ground check fee every time we make a purchase.
I agree on both counts. I can't figure out why, when I go in to receive a firearm, they don't even want to see my CCW card. What is the point??
The process you go through in order to get the permit, should negate the NCIS check each time for $$. (But) It is a money maker for the State, so it is not going to change.
(Stupid.)
We should not have to pay 200 bucks for a the right to carry.
Nor pay a back ground check fee every time we make a purchase.
burchie gets it. If the rest of you think that getting some kind of gov't issued "permit" in order to exercise a constitutional right is great, well, you're part of the problem.
quote:Originally posted by burchie
We should not have to pay 200 bucks for a the right to carry.
Nor pay a back ground check fee every time we make a purchase.
burchie gets it. If the rest of you think that getting some kind of gov't issued "permit" in order to exercise a constitutional right is great, well, you're part of the problem.
And if you carry illegally you are also part of the problem. Part of the problem is that state and federal laws are not perfectly aligned.
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quote:Originally posted by burchie
We should not have to pay 200 bucks for a the right to carry.
Nor pay a back ground check fee every time we make a purchase.
burchie gets it. If the rest of you think that getting some kind of gov't issued "permit" in order to exercise a constitutional right is great, well, you're part of the problem.
So, I take it you do NOT have a CCW in your State of residence??
I personally do not need a gun charge, on my record.
Although I would agree, you should not need a "permit," in order to excersize your Constitutional right, State Law is not currently in line with that.
If you want to "legally" carry a loaded firearm on you, or in your vehicle, that is the current legal means to do so.
I may not agree with it, but that is the current legal means of doing so. Perhaps (We) and I can change that in the future, but the current reality of "legal" carry is a little different.
Not looking to provoke an argument. Looking for a civil discourse.
And if you carry illegally you are also part of the problem. Part of the problem is that state and federal laws are not perfectly aligned.
It's a sad day when supporting the constitution causes one to be part of the problem. I guess that's what America wants though. The constitution is an old and outdated rag that does nor fit the new and better country we have today.[:(][V]
quote:Originally posted by burchie
We should not have to pay 200 bucks for a the right to carry.
Nor pay a back ground check fee every time we make a purchase.
I agree on both counts. I can't figure out why, when I go in to receive a firearm, they don't even want to see my CCW card. What is the point??
The process you go through in order to get the permit, should negate the NCIS check each time for $$. (But) It is a money maker for the State, so it is not going to change.
(Stupid.)
Take that up with your state reps. SC has no check once a CWP is issued.
quote:Originally posted by burchie
We should not have to pay 200 bucks for a the right to carry.
Nor pay a back ground check fee every time we make a purchase.
burchie gets it. If the rest of you think that getting some kind of gov't issued "permit" in order to exercise a constitutional right is great, well, you're part of the problem.
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In the old days some were called "out laws", because the laws were so restrictive you could not be law abiding and survive.
Let's say you were a slave for instance. The laws protected slave owners. If you broke those laws and wanted some human rights and dignity, you HAD to break the laws.
At least the OP recognizes and celebrates when the laws are moving in the right direction. Yes, it is sad that this is a happy occurrence, but none the less a good sign that people are waking up.
But also don't be fooled by a "lifetime" permit. A new regime down the road can easily overturn that, just as California is doing with their insane illegal "laws".
So, I take it you do NOT have a CCW in your State of residence??
You would take that correctly.
We have a new one in NJ too. Go to jail. Go directly to jail and do not pass go. Check your rights and guns at the boarder. [;)] Once Chris Christie is gone, our new state sign will read, "Welcome To Communist New Jersey, Where you have no rights".[:(!] signed Governor, Corey, "BLM" and your don't,Booker.[;)]
I've lived in NJ for apprx 23-26 years. I did not want to bring that into the equation.
You do NOT have the right to have a firearm on you in NJ. God forbid you actually shoot someone. (Yes) Even in your home.
I was finally able to move back to the Great State Of Tennessee.
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
So, I take it you do NOT have a CCW in your State of residence??
You would take that correctly.
So my next question to you Sir, is - Do you daily carry anyway??
So my next question to you Sir, is - Do you daily carry anyway??
Not daily, no.
The answer is usually nothing of consequence, unless one considers whining on the InterWeb to be of some value.
Our Constitution not only gave us rights, but also gives us a way to influence the world we live in...and the responsibility to do so. The responsibility part doesn't seem to get much use.
If your state requires a permit to carry concealed and you do it anyway, you are a criminal; possibly even a felon. Period.
In the eyes of the law, you're no different than any Chicago/Chicano hood rat doing exactly the same thing. Any you'll likely be treated the same way with the same penalties. Included among which is the prohibition of ever possessing a gun again.
But it's your choice. Go ahead and feel smugly rebellious if you want.
When I see those who don't like the current state of any law complain about it, I always wonder what they are doing to change the situation.
The answer is usually nothing of consequence, unless one considers whining on the InterWeb to be of some value.
Our Constitution not only gave us rights, but also gives us a way to influence the world we live in...and the responsibility to do so. The responsibility part doesn't seem to get much use.
It was people who gave us the Constitution and will only be people who can defend it.
Teach your children well...
Dead horse beating.
If your state requires a permit to carry concealed and you do it anyway, you are a criminal; possibly even a felon. Period.
In the eyes of the law, you're no different than any Chicago/Chicano hood rat doing exactly the same thing. Any you'll likely be treated the same way with the same penalties. Included among which is the prohibition of ever possessing a gun again.
But it's your choice. Go ahead and feel smugly rebellious if you want.
Again, after having lived in NJ previously, that State (and others) are not playing any games. There are quite a few people in Prison for 3-5 years, 1st time non-violent offenders for having the temerity of ignoring the States Laws.
Roll the dice if you choose to. Me, not so much. I don't need that drama in my life. (Including a Felony conviction.)
Dead horse beating.
If your state requires a permit to carry concealed and you do it anyway, you are a criminal; possibly even a felon. Period.
In the eyes of the law, you're no different than any Chicago/Chicano hood rat doing exactly the same thing. Any you'll likely be treated the same way with the same penalties. Included among which is the prohibition of ever possessing a gun again.
But it's your choice. Go ahead and feel smugly rebellious if you want.
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quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
Dead horse beating.
If your state requires a permit to carry concealed and you do it anyway, you are a criminal; possibly even a felon. Period.
In the eyes of the law, you're no different than any Chicago/Chicano hood rat doing exactly the same thing. Any you'll likely be treated the same way with the same penalties. Included among which is the prohibition of ever possessing a gun again.
But it's your choice. Go ahead and feel smugly rebellious if you want.
WRONG
Exactly what part of that is "wrong," mag00. Please expound on your statement. What part of that, is "wrong."
I get the Constitutional argument. The State you live in, may have different legalities.
That is the reality we live in.
Please Sir, your point??
If enough of us go to Prison, they will change the Law??
Um..... No.
Dead horse beating.
If your state requires a permit to carry concealed and you do it anyway, you are a criminal; possibly even a felon. Period.
In the eyes of the law, you're no different than any Chicago/Chicano hood rat doing exactly the same thing. Any you'll likely be treated the same way with the same penalties. Included among which is the prohibition of ever possessing a gun again.
But it's your choice. Go ahead and feel smugly rebellious if you want.
Exactly ! Yet there are .. and were.. some keyboard commando's that think the law does not apply to them.
quote:Originally posted by mag00
quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
Dead horse beating.
If your state requires a permit to carry concealed and you do it anyway, you are a criminal; possibly even a felon. Period.
In the eyes of the law, you're no different than any Chicago/Chicano hood rat doing exactly the same thing. Any you'll likely be treated the same way with the same penalties. Included among which is the prohibition of ever possessing a gun again.
But it's your choice. Go ahead and feel smugly rebellious if you want.
WRONG
Exactly what part of that is "wrong," mag00. Please expound on your statement. What part of that, is "wrong."
I get the Constitutional argument. The State you live in, may have different legalities.
That is the reality we live in.
Please Sir, your point??
If enough of us go to Prison, they will change the Law??
Um..... No.
Please tell me what harm a person is doing by carrying a concealed weapon.
If a gangbanger robs or kills, that is causing harm.
Do you not see the difference?
That whole statement is WRONG on so many levels it saddens me to think anybody would believe that way. Every part of it is filled with untruth and misdirection from "dead horse" to being "smug".
quote:Originally posted by Oakie
We have a new one in NJ too. Go to jail. Go directly to jail and do not pass go. Check your rights and guns at the boarder. [;)] Once Chris Christie is gone, our new state sign will read, "Welcome To Communist New Jersey, Where you have no rights".[:(!] signed Governor, Corey, "BLM" and your don't,Booker.[;)]
I've lived in NJ for apprx 23-26 years. I did not want to bring that into the equation.
You do NOT have the right to have a firearm on you in NJ. God forbid you actually shoot someone. (Yes) Even in your home.
I was finally able to move back to the Great State Of Tennessee.
North or south?? Before you answer, be careful, their might be a test on your party affiliation later[:D]JK, both have really beautiful areas.
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by mag00
quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
Dead horse beating.
If your state requires a permit to carry concealed and you do it anyway, you are a criminal; possibly even a felon. Period.
In the eyes of the law, you're no different than any Chicago/Chicano hood rat doing exactly the same thing. Any you'll likely be treated the same way with the same penalties. Included among which is the prohibition of ever possessing a gun again.
But it's your choice. Go ahead and feel smugly rebellious if you want.
WRONG
Exactly what part of that is "wrong," mag00. Please expound on your statement. What part of that, is "wrong."
I get the Constitutional argument. The State you live in, may have different legalities.
That is the reality we live in.
Please Sir, your point??
If enough of us go to Prison, they will change the Law??
Um..... No.
Please tell me what harm a person is doing by carrying a concealed weapon.
If a gangbanger robs or kills, that is causing harm.
Do you not see the difference?
That whole statement is WRONG on so many levels it saddens me to think anybody would believe that way. Every part of it is filled with untruth and misdirection from "dead horse" to being "smug".
I Sir, can most certainly " see the difference." Good luck trying to use that argument, in quite a few States. Whether you mean harm or not.
I agree with you Sir, that that is not what the Constitution States. You will (however) still go to Prison in those States. (Currently.)
It has to be overturned Nationwide, in order to make a significant change in the current structure of things.
Perhaps in the incoming Administration, we will have a[img][/img] chance at doing so, with the SCOTUS choices.
I'm not trying to argue with you Sir. I am merely stating that the various States legalities, are currently less than we would desire.
I would agree, that this needs to be changed through the legislature. Not through me going to Prison, with a Felony conviction, in order to make a point.
quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
quote:Originally posted by Oakie
We have a new one in NJ too. Go to jail. Go directly to jail and do not pass go. Check your rights and guns at the boarder. [;)] Once Chris Christie is gone, our new state sign will read, "Welcome To Communist New Jersey, Where you have no rights".[:(!] signed Governor, Corey, "BLM" and your don't,Booker.[;)]
I've lived in NJ for apprx 23-26 years. I did not want to bring that into the equation.
You do NOT have the right to have a firearm on you in NJ. God forbid you actually shoot someone. (Yes) Even in your home.
I was finally able to move back to the Great State Of Tennessee.
North or south?? Before you answer, be careful, their might be a test on your party affiliation later[:D]JK, both have really beautiful areas.
Way North Oakie.
West Milford NJ. Greenwood Lake NY. I lived within a rock throw of the NY/NJ border.
(And) I consider myself a proud Independent. Leaning strongly towards the Republican party.
So, what harm is being done by carrying concealed?
Regardless of where one lives, the Founding National Document states in no uncertain terms that the Rights enumerated within which have been conferred upon the "people" come from a Higher Power than mere mortal man's Goobermint.
I think the confusion results from misunderstanding that fact.
Somewhere, it was postulated that Goobermint must control the inalienable Rights for the "people's" own good.
Seems Goobermint must decide for the "people" what constitutes "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", because there are those of "us" that desire restrictions placed upon the exercise of any of our Rights.
Read it, live it, then deny it later.......
I however, realize the current legalities involved in "legally" carrying on a daily basis in my State of Residence.
I am in agreement with you, that this perhaps infringes on my right to keep and bear Arms, to a certain degree.
I do what I can, to change this oderous infringement.
A first step is my helping to vote PEOTUS Trump into office. I am hopeful some SCOTUS choices will swing the "legal" right our way.
You pick and choose your battles.
In times of War, things may be, and will be a little different.
YVMD.
If they pass a law that says you have to wear a "Breath Meter" and pay tax on the amount of air you breath, will you do it?
So, what harm is being done by carrying concealed?
When you go to Jail and have to bond out for carrying a handgun without a permit or lawfully.. ask yourself that same question.
they passed a few laws
one if your active service you do not need a CC permit
another you can carry in your vehicle at work in the parking lots ( where I use to work a fellow was just fired for that )
also allowed to carry on campus and some other areas they were out lawed before ( if the school sill has the right to say no )
maybe a few more but at least in the right direction
In Ohio
they passed a few laws
one if your active service you do not need a CC permit
another you can carry in your vehicle at work in the parking lots ( where I use to work a fellow was just fired for that )
also allowed to carry on campus and some other areas they were out lawed before ( if the school sill has the right to say no )
maybe a few more but at least in the right direction
Where I work same rule applies. We had a "justified shooting," right after shift change, a couple miles from work. He was fired, as they deemed he must have had the weapon in his vehicle on company property. That sucked.
If they pass a law that says you have to wear a "Breath Meter" and pay tax on the amount of air you breath, will you do it?
So, what harm is being done by carrying concealed?
Since I see you are another of our members unhappy with the current state of the laws, I will ask you the same question I like to pose: What are you doing to change the law?
I am happy to outline my efforts if you would like. I imagine the comparison to your own would be embarrassing for you. But give it a shot. The other 'rebel without any effort' on this thread usually takes a powder when the question comes up, but perhaps you are a man of action, rather than one who talks a good game.