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Rebel Flag, Taxes and Slaves
CapnMidnight
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Abraham Lincoln said war was over taxes, not slavery
In a Friday, June 19, 2015 file photo, the Confederate flag flies near the South Carolina Statehouse, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Rainier Ehrhardt, File)
June 26, 2015 at 10:02 AM, updated June 26, 2015 at 10:04 AM
By Roger K. Broxton of Andalusia, president of the Confederate Heritage Fund
Abraham Lincoln repeatedly stated his war was caused by taxes only, and not by slavery, at all.
"My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861.
"I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year.
There is no proof of Lincoln ever declaring the war was fought to abolish slavery, and without such an official statement, the war-over-slavery teaching remains a complete lie and offensive hate speech that divides Americans, as is being done now by the media and politicians regarding the Confederate flag in South Carolina.
Slavery was NOT abolished; just the name was changed to sharecropper with over 5 million Southern whites and 3 million Southern blacks working on land stolen by Wall Street bankers.
White, black, Indian, Hispanic, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish Confederates valiantly stood as one in thousands of battles on land and sea. Afterwards, they attended Confederate Veterans' reunions together and received pensions from Southern States.
Photos of black Confederate veterans may be seen in Alabama's Archives in Scrapbook - 41st Reunion of United Confederate Veterans, Montgomery, June 2,3,4 and 5, 1931."
Lincoln did not claim slavery was a reason even in his Emancipation Proclamations on Sept. 22, 1862, and Jan. 1, 1863.
Moreover, Lincoln's proclamations exempted a million slaves under his control from being freed (including General U.S. Grant's four slaves) and offered the South three months to return to the Union (pay 40 percent sales tax) and keep their slaves. None did. Lincoln affirmed his only reason for issuing was: "as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said (tax) rebellion."
Mrs. Grant wrote in her personal memoirs: "We rented our pretty little home (in St. Louis) and hired out our four servants to persons whom we knew and who promised to be kind to them. Eliza, Dan, Julia and John belonged to me. When I visited the General during the War, I nearly always had Julia with me as nurse."
Lincoln declared war to collect taxes in his two presidential war proclamations against the Confederate States, on April 15 and 19th, 1861: "Whereas an insurrection against the Government of the United States has broken out and the laws of the United States for the collection of the revenue cannot be effectually executed therein."
On Dec. 25, 1860, South Carolina declared unfair taxes to be a cause of secession: "The people of the Southern States are not only taxed for the benefit of the Northern States, but after the taxes are collected, three-fourths (75%) of them are expended at the North (to subsidize Wall Street industries that elected Lincoln)." (Paragraphs 5-8)
It was on April 8, 1861, that Lincoln, alone, started the war by a surprise attack on Charleston Harbor with a fleet of warships, led by the USS Harriet Lane, to occupy Fort Sumter, a Federal tax collection fort in the territorial waters of South Carolina and then invaded Virginia.
On April 29, 1861, President Jefferson Davis described the South's response of self-defense in his Message To the Confederate States Congress: "I directed a proposal to be made to the commander of Fort Sumter that we would abstain from directing our fire on Fort Sumter if he would promise not to open fire on our forces unless first attacked. This proposal was refused." (Paragraphs 8-9)
The only reason the South ever gave for fighting was in self-defense of the voluntary Union of independent States, as symbolized then by the U.S. Flag.
Secession (withdrawal from a voluntary union) and war are two very different events.
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/06/war-over-slavery_rhetoric_is_i.html#incart_story_package
W.D.
In a Friday, June 19, 2015 file photo, the Confederate flag flies near the South Carolina Statehouse, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Rainier Ehrhardt, File)
June 26, 2015 at 10:02 AM, updated June 26, 2015 at 10:04 AM
By Roger K. Broxton of Andalusia, president of the Confederate Heritage Fund
Abraham Lincoln repeatedly stated his war was caused by taxes only, and not by slavery, at all.
"My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861.
"I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year.
There is no proof of Lincoln ever declaring the war was fought to abolish slavery, and without such an official statement, the war-over-slavery teaching remains a complete lie and offensive hate speech that divides Americans, as is being done now by the media and politicians regarding the Confederate flag in South Carolina.
Slavery was NOT abolished; just the name was changed to sharecropper with over 5 million Southern whites and 3 million Southern blacks working on land stolen by Wall Street bankers.
White, black, Indian, Hispanic, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish Confederates valiantly stood as one in thousands of battles on land and sea. Afterwards, they attended Confederate Veterans' reunions together and received pensions from Southern States.
Photos of black Confederate veterans may be seen in Alabama's Archives in Scrapbook - 41st Reunion of United Confederate Veterans, Montgomery, June 2,3,4 and 5, 1931."
Lincoln did not claim slavery was a reason even in his Emancipation Proclamations on Sept. 22, 1862, and Jan. 1, 1863.
Moreover, Lincoln's proclamations exempted a million slaves under his control from being freed (including General U.S. Grant's four slaves) and offered the South three months to return to the Union (pay 40 percent sales tax) and keep their slaves. None did. Lincoln affirmed his only reason for issuing was: "as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said (tax) rebellion."
Mrs. Grant wrote in her personal memoirs: "We rented our pretty little home (in St. Louis) and hired out our four servants to persons whom we knew and who promised to be kind to them. Eliza, Dan, Julia and John belonged to me. When I visited the General during the War, I nearly always had Julia with me as nurse."
Lincoln declared war to collect taxes in his two presidential war proclamations against the Confederate States, on April 15 and 19th, 1861: "Whereas an insurrection against the Government of the United States has broken out and the laws of the United States for the collection of the revenue cannot be effectually executed therein."
On Dec. 25, 1860, South Carolina declared unfair taxes to be a cause of secession: "The people of the Southern States are not only taxed for the benefit of the Northern States, but after the taxes are collected, three-fourths (75%) of them are expended at the North (to subsidize Wall Street industries that elected Lincoln)." (Paragraphs 5-8)
It was on April 8, 1861, that Lincoln, alone, started the war by a surprise attack on Charleston Harbor with a fleet of warships, led by the USS Harriet Lane, to occupy Fort Sumter, a Federal tax collection fort in the territorial waters of South Carolina and then invaded Virginia.
On April 29, 1861, President Jefferson Davis described the South's response of self-defense in his Message To the Confederate States Congress: "I directed a proposal to be made to the commander of Fort Sumter that we would abstain from directing our fire on Fort Sumter if he would promise not to open fire on our forces unless first attacked. This proposal was refused." (Paragraphs 8-9)
The only reason the South ever gave for fighting was in self-defense of the voluntary Union of independent States, as symbolized then by the U.S. Flag.
Secession (withdrawal from a voluntary union) and war are two very different events.
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/06/war-over-slavery_rhetoric_is_i.html#incart_story_package
W.D.
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I forget exactly how many reasons history tells us that the war was fought over, but as I recollect from my Texas history lessons in school there was something like eight of them.
I will be forwarding it on to other people for obvious reasons. Thanks!
Can't remember who said "He who controls the future controls the past", but he was spot on.
I'm certain book burning is in the cue in our relentless pursuit to please these democrats.
Right now government fingers are all over education, especially grades K-12. Far left democrats and socialists control the department of education and most of education itself.
Can't remember who said "He who controls the future controls the past", but he was spot on.
I'm certain book burning is in the cue in our relentless pursuit to please these democrats.
Book burning has many forms.
Great post, W.D., unfortunately there are people that visit here that will defend their false belief that the war's only purpose was that of slavery and nothing at all to do with the many reasons associated with states rights.
I forget exactly how many reasons history tells us that the war was fought over, but as I recollect from my Texas history lessons in school there was something like eight of them.
I will be forwarding it on to other people for obvious reasons. Thanks!
yes and they believe Lincoln freed the slaves, instead of the reality that the emancipation proclamation was a military strategy and nothing more
or the fact that even after the war northern slaves did not get freed for 2 more years, and Lincoln was dead when it did happen
had he not done so the war would have effectively ended right there.
the best book I have ever read on the War of Northern Aggression which ignored the glory battles but explained the causes and behind the scenes dealings is "Battle Cry of Freedom"
I doubt it is allowed in schools
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
I did not type war of northern aggression.
You guys may say you are against Obama but you sure mimic his tactics
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
UN-FN-BELIEVABLE !!!!![:p][:p][:p]
it just could not have been over economics in which the slave issue was a part of the equation, could it???
you know it was ALL about them and nothing else, right?
you are trying to confuse us with facts, dam u
When the colonies were young, the south had the favorable balance of trade. Their agricultural produce was the primary source of income while the north was in the infancy of the industrial revolution- in essence, the south paid for the North's industry to get "up & going". In the years immediately prior to 1860 the tide began to turn. Northern industry was exceeding the southern output, which was in decline. Instead of acknowledging what the south had done for them, the northerners declined any assistance. The south had bankrolled the colonies through both revolutionary wars and was now being treated as a little brother that wasn't completing his chores. The rebukes of the North continued despite Supreme court rulings that favored the south. So the south decided to opt out of the union. This was the decision that Lincoln could not allow. Had the south reached that decision today, there would have been no Civil War (as there should not have been then). What would happen is that the states would merely break diplomatic ties with Washington DC. All payments from the states and individuals of the state to the federal government (IRS withholding, FICA, etc) would be held by the state and used to backfill the shortfalls resulting from the lack of funds from the federal government. I f the feds came to their senses, diplomatic relations could be restored, but if not, other states may have joined in the opt-out and the US would cease to exist- which was the real fear of Lincoln. Which considering the various adversaries that the US has faced and continues to face, the world would be an entirely different place had the US dissolved.
that is why I asked the question I did on this forum a number of months ago Just Like today The BIG GOVERNMENT in D.C. and the north in the 1850' & 60's wanted that tax money. They could not stand that the south was importing raw goods and they were not getting a piece of the pie. State Rights just like today the federal Gov is walking rough shod over the states . IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. We have more slaves in this country today than we ever had in the 1800's all of use who fund the ones that get the money from Big government and all of ones that get the government money that have no incentive to work and make a better life for them self are really slaves to the system
Right now government fingers are all over education, especially grades K-12. Far left democrats and socialists control the department of education and most of education itself.
Can't remember who said "He who controls the future controls the past", but he was spot on.
I'm certain book burning is in the cue in our relentless pursuit to please these democrats.