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Hurricane Sandy pictures

OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2016 in General Discussion
Guys, we are still cleaning up four years later. No one believes you when you tell them the sand was up to the second floor on houses. I am still doing recovery work and people still have not received their insurance money. Houses are rotting and full of mold and uninhabitable. I bet it is at least another four years before we are back in shape from this disaster. The damn government has been no help either. It is like we were forgotten. In the one picture, the caption states that president Obama hugs the owner of North Point Marina. This is my friend Donna and our next door neighbor down the shore. Her place was totally destroyed and her and her husband ended up losing everything, even their marriage. Very sad at what this storm has done to families and is still doing to families. I know people that are still living in hotels , waiting for insurance companies to help and the government. Oakiehttp://www.businessinsider.com/a-look-back-at-sandys-destruction-2016-9?utm_content=buffer8c5dd&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer/#sandys-strength-and-angle-of-approach-combined-to-produce-a-record-storm-surge-of-water-into-new-york-city-new-jersey-and-other-parts-of-the-northeast-progress-has-been-made-but-many-will-never-fully-recover-all-that-was-lost-or-damaged-31

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  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oakie this is true. Sister Catherine is still working with friends and family in Ocean County NJ to fix damages. The Insurance Companies and banks of course draged thier feet.

    Here we are 4 years later sorting out the wreckage. Another good reason to throw out the politicians that are quick for the photo ops and disappear when the work needs to be done.

    Shame on our system.
    "What is truth?'
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When it first hit all kind of clean up crews arrived but were basically run out of town. They had equipment that specialized in that kind of work again run out town from what I hear.
    [:(][xx(][V]
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    When it first hit all kind of clean up crews arrived but were basically run out of town. They had equipment that specialized in that kind of work again run out town from what I hear.
    [:(][xx(][V]


    What you heard is a lie. We gladly accepted all kinds of out of state workers. This was a union lie, to get union only workers in here. No electrical workers were asked to leave, we had too many of them here and they we needed further up the coast. The people the state did ask to leave were, unlicensed contractors, ripping people off. There is where the horror stories come in. I too heard the rumors and stories about the electrical workers being asked to leave, so I know what you are saying. They were just that, rumors.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It wasn't even a Hurricane.... , Not even a tropical storm. I understand that your area sustained a lot of damage from it, but please.... I can't count how many times the Flora-Bama Lounge and Package store has had sand up to the rafters and they were open for business by the next spring break. It is a hazard of living/building on the coast.

    I've never heard so many people complain for so long about an event that was not even a Hurricane. If the insurance companies are not paying then they need to be sued and have the State Insurance commissioner jack them around. There is no excuse for that.

    That said, I would bet that a large number of people that had damage were not properly insured. They just need to suck it up. If you don't have coverage you don't have coverage and pitching a fit after the fact wont get you coverage. My house is not covered for earthquakes or volcanoes, although I'm sure I can get a rider for that. My guess is that if I get smacked with a volcano the house is the least of my worries....
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Agreed, Captain.

    Buried in sand for four years? No one owns a shovel?

    Why is government even involved?

    Has the northeast totally lost its sense of individual responsibility?
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Oakie becareful what you say as I know people that went up there and the Unions ran them off. That's why it took so long to get the clean up and these people work disasters all over the country and Have the right equipment
  • Irish 8802Irish 8802 Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The vast majority of $$$$ from the feds goes to this coast.."the rich get richer and the poor get poorer",Bout time you pay your own way....
  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When a house is flooded out why don't they put Lysol in a weed killer sprayer and apply in order to keep mold down? They could put a little in under the drywall between studs too, and maybe it would never spread to the nooks and crannies if the spores couldn't take hold elsewhere.
  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,937 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    These storms really do change lives and entire economies.
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    Oakie becareful what you say as I know people that went up there and the Unions ran them off. That's why it took so long to get the clean up and these people work disasters all over the country and Have the right equipment

    You could be 110% right. I can't answer what your friends said and they could be right. I can tell you what I saw and heard from our area of the south. The unions could have done that, but i heard the opposite. We probably will never know. We are just in a bad way still, in SOME areas. One of my neighbors that had insurance, Just got a check last week. His modular home has been sitting in a lot for about three years, rotting. The foundation was poured, but construction halted , due to the insurance company not paying. It is just moving slowly. It is like , well folks, the storm is over, all is good now, and that is far from the truth. People from all over , have come and taken advantage of people and stole money from them. I am sure this happens all the time, whenever there is a disaster. I am just seeing it first hand, for the first time in my life and it is sad. Oakie
  • Franz?Franz? Member Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cajun fellow I know who grew up in the swamp country was on the Island for a month or so after it started to drain working as a coordinator for some damn rich folks. He had half of the youngsters in his family up there with their rented trailers helping people. Cajun coonass wisdom says them rich folks are the highest concentration of DUMB they ever encountered, people bound and determined to make recovery as difficult as they can. He tells me the local law and local inspectors did more tho slow things down than anybody.
    I sort of tend to believe him because I've seen pictures of him towing his baby sister's HenryJ floating on planks and oil barrels with his DiamondT pickup, and the shotgun houses with removable wainscot walls so the place could get hosed out and dried out when the water went down.

    There is an ongoing thread on Sandy & Long Island at
    http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=266820
    Over 40 pages and still going.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And just what is your Governor doing ? [B)] He has his on agenda to deal with.......I too am a Trump man but when tragedy strikes one needs to take care of home, he has the power to have disaster workers & insurance companies jumping full steam, he's simply not doing his job. [;)].

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • Franz?Franz? Member Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Junkballer
    And just what is your Governor doing ? [B)] He has his on agenda to deal with.......I too am a Trump man but when tragedy strikes one needs to take care of home, he has the power to have disaster workers & insurance companies jumping full steam, he's simply not doing his job. [;)].


    Baby Cuomo and his friends were very busy diverting all the dedicated taxes on phones for 911 systems to other uses. Testimonial dinners ain't cheap you know.

    As of this week, with an Election coming Little Caesar Cuomo is announcing GRANTS to municipalities to improve 911 systems. The money will probably never arrive, but it sounds good right now.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, but the east coast has never suffered Hurricanes like the Gulf Coast..2005 the Mississippi coast was completely denuded of any type structure,but they have made a big time recovery.....why? Hard work and a resolve to build back better and stronger!We lost a beach house on Dauphine Island, and the Condo we stay in on Perdido Beach(west Florida)has had the 1st floor completely sunk with sand at least three different times in the last 20 years..The problem with the East Coast,is they see few storms,and don't know how to cope with them...
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    I'm sure this is an inaccurate generalization, but the people I have personally met while in Manhattan and people who live in the midwest transplanted from the east coast strike me as the type who calls someone to get something done as opposed to doing things themselves.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    Oakie becareful what you say as I know people that went up there and the Unions ran them off. That's why it took so long to get the clean up and these people work disasters all over the country and Have the right equipment


    I recall a contractor from Virginia that was interviewed on the radio and he said the same thing. They went up there to help, but because he refused to join the local union and pay their extortion they weren't allowed to work. He packed up his crews and came back. If true I say jersey is getting what it deserves.


    We have an amendment up for vote for our State Constitution ensuring VA stays a right to work state. I hope it passes!
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    I'm sure this is an inaccurate generalization, but the people I have personally met while in Manhattan and people who live in the midwest transplanted from the east coast strike me as the type who calls someone to get something done as opposed to doing things themselves.


    No, you are spot on in your assessment. I cannot believe, how many people I meet, that cannot even change a light bulb for themselves. Skilled workers are almost gone here. People will just pick up a phone and call someone. I was raised by a father who's motto was, Why pay for someone to do a job, that you can do yourself. These kids today and my generation somewhat, were taught to pick up a phone and call someone. If I don't know how to do something, I learn and learn quick. I had never built a thing, until I got an estimate for my four car Garage. They wanted 45,000. I built it for 7,500, with a ton of extras. East coasters are very unskilled anymore, so your assessment is almost spot on.[;)]
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Oakie
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    I'm sure this is an inaccurate generalization, but the people I have personally met while in Manhattan and people who live in the midwest transplanted from the east coast strike me as the type who calls someone to get something done as opposed to doing things themselves.


    No, you are spot on in your assessment. I cannot believe, how many people I meet, that cannot even change a light bulb for themselves. Skilled workers are almost gone here. People will just pick up a phone and call someone. I was raised by a father who's motto was, Why pay for someone to do a job, that you can do yourself. These kids today and my generation somewhat, were taught to pick up a phone and call someone. If I don't know how to do something, I learn and learn quick. I had never built a thing, until I got an estimate for my four car Garage. They wanted 45,000. I built it for 7,500, with a ton of extras. East coasters are very unskilled anymore, so your assessment is almost spot on.[;)]


    When the Hispanics take all the jobs and the babyboomers inheritance runs out then they won't be able to call or work![:D]

    serf
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Oakie
    quote:Originally posted by TooBig
    Oakie becareful what you say as I know people that went up there and the Unions ran them off. That's why it took so long to get the clean up and these people work disasters all over the country and Have the right equipment

    You could be 110% right. I can't answer what your friends said and they could be right. I can tell you what I saw and heard from our area of the south. The unions could have done that, but i heard the opposite. We probably will never know. We are just in a bad way still, in SOME areas. One of my neighbors that had insurance, Just got a check last week. His modular home has been sitting in a lot for about three years, rotting. The foundation was poured, but construction halted , due to the insurance company not paying. It is just moving slowly. It is like , well folks, the storm is over, all is good now, and that is far from the truth. People from all over , have come and taken advantage of people and stole money from them. I am sure this happens all the time, whenever there is a disaster. I am just seeing it first hand, for the first time in my life and it is sad. Oakie
    You betcha, very sad. We got socked in Ortley - the scams were extensive starting with the 27 MILLION a mile construction cost for Rt 35 where the richest towns on the east coast are. I got a lot of work- the stories I won't tell about the complete fudgeup and swindle by BOTH politicrap gangs in NJ would curl your toes.
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