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Somali pirates

joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
This just keeps getting better and better

NAIROBI, Kenya (CNN) -- One of the pirates who held a Saudi-owned oil supertanker off the coast of Somalia before releasing it for ransom over the weekend told CNN how four in his group drowned in an operation gone wrong.


A small aircraft drops a ransom payment during a flight over the Sirius Star on Friday.

1 of 2 Pirates seized the Sirius on November 15. A $3.5 million ransom payment -- down from the initial demand of $25 million -- was dropped by parachute onto the ship Friday, but the pirates delayed the vessel's release after the drownings.

"Other pirates on the shore wanted a tip from the pirates on the Sirius Star, so they started to fire in the air as our people approached the land," Libaan Jaama told CNN. "When our pirates heard the shots, they thought they would be robbed, so they tried to return to the tanker. In that quick turn the boat capsized."

Jaama said he was mourning his friends, who, along with other pirates on board, took 23 crew members hostage. The Kenya Seafarers Association said the crew -- which included citizens of Croatia, Great Britain, the Philippines, Poland and Saudi Arabia -- was in "good health and high spirits" when the vessel was released Saturday.

The supertanker, owned by Vela International Marine Ltd., a subsidiary of the Saudi Arabian-based Saudi Aramco, was the largest ship ever hijacked by pirates. The ship is a VLCC, or "very large crude carrier," and more than three times the size of a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier, the U.S. 5th Fleet said.

The tanker's capture in November sparked fears for its enormous cargo. The Liberian-flagged tanker was carrying 2 million barrels of crude oil worth about $100 million when it was captured.

Andrew Mwangura of the Kenya Seafarers Association said it would have been a "disaster" if the pirates had fired guns aboard the ship, harming the cargo or igniting a fire.

Hijackings off East Africa are a cause of growing international concern, spurring a number of international navies to patrol the pirate-wracked Gulf of Aden.

Pirates attacked nearly 100 vessels and hijacked as many as 40 in the waters off the coast of Somalia in 2008, according to the International Maritime Bureau. See how pirate attacks peaked in 2008

The financial and human costs of piracy are extensive. Ships ranging from luxury yachts to the Saudi supertanker have been held for ransom. At least one major company pulled its ships from the Gulf of Aden region in 2008, meaning cargo bound for Europe had to round the African continent rather than use the Suez Canal.

The pirates are based in Somalia -- a land racked by poverty and conflict -- and say hijacking ships is all about the money and the lifestyle.

"We have the best way of life," Jaama said. "We drive in white SUVs, we enjoy driving them and there is absolutely no difficulty in our life."

Jaama warned the the flotilla of coalition warships in the region ready and authorized to strike at Somali pirates to back off.

"Those foreign forces are making a mistake targeting pirates because we only hunt in our waters," he said. "If they come to our borders, we will think of steps to take against them."

Comments

  • joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was just watching videos on YouTube about ships having private security now and I heard something I can't friggin believe.

    Is it true that in most of these pirate attacks the captured pirates are put on trial in the country the ships are registered to( Europe) put in prison there for a few years then allowed to stay because their country is to dangerous?

    That boggles my mind. Wth??
  • kidthatsirishkidthatsirish Member Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just shoot um till they die or the engine quits....then leave.
  • joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I saw one video where the pirates surrendered and were huddled in the back of their
    Boat with their hands up.

    Fine. They gave up. Don't kill them. Directly. Blow the front of their boat off let it sink and let the bastages swim back to what ever port they come from. [:(!]
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    If I were in Somalia, the things I would be willing to do to leave would boggle your mind.

    That place is a failed government poop hole.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,387 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    so its a win win I would bet jail is a better living than there home
    but crime needs punished
    shoot any who resist or threaten anyone and leave the rest in a disabled boat with a bucked and a ore

    desperate people do desperate things but the taxpayers should not be the ones to support them same with our southern border
    we have enough city rats to feed that breed like well " rats " [:D]and leach on us now
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,387 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well a bit of overkill but I bet they do not screw with the Russians,
    it might have been cheaper to pay them that the cost of the ammo they used up [:0]
    of course that would have deprived them of target practice
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Somalia LOL
    Just another thing they destroyed.

    Anyone see a pattern in all this?
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I see no reason to "capture or detain" pirates. If (as it's supposed to go) they don't actually board the vessel, there's no need to make contact with them. If their boat "happens to get damaged", leave them to paddle or swim home. If they have an "inside man" toss his * over the side to swim with them.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some of the videos I have seem the Mercenaries were so poorly equipped I had to wonder what kind of legitimate training and skill they had to be doing the job.
  • m88.358winm88.358win Member Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shouldn't be worrying about them out at sea as much because Obuttwhole probably brought them here to the USA, gave them a place to live along with free tax payer money.
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hang them from the yard arm....
    "What is truth?'
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good thing Obama is out of office or he would bring them to America
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mjrfd99
    Somalia LOL
    Just another thing they destroyed.

    Anyone see a pattern in all this?


    I'm up for a conspiracy!!

    Which "they" are we blaming for what?
  • rambo rebelrambo rebel Member Posts: 4,028
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mobuck
    I see no reason to "capture or detain" pirates. If (as it's supposed to go) they don't actually board the vessel, there's no need to make contact with them. If their boat "happens to get damaged", leave them to paddle or swim home. If they have an "inside man" toss his * over the side to swim with them.


    you forgot one thing - have some chum readily available to dump in the water[^][xx(]
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I DO NOT understand the AMERICAN mind set of disarming your enemies who would cut your head off and pizz down your throat without a moments hesitation...give them a FREE ride to the USA and a FREE life style better than our own welfare, disabled, veterans ?????????????? FKNG kill them and that one will never bother you again
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spasmcreek
    I DO NOT understand the AMERICAN mind set of disarming your enemies who would cut your head off and pizz down your throat without a moments hesitation...give them a FREE ride to the USA and a FREE life style better than our own welfare, disabled, veterans ?????????????? FKNG kill them and that one will never bother you again


    You are skeered of Somali:
    Cruise Missles
    Nuclear Bombs
    Internet Scams
    ?
    ?

    Between a hundred of them, they couldn't raise enough cash to buy a blade that was serviceable to behead anyone.

    Buy them a ham sammich and they are your friend for life.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,052 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    four men on board with .50 caliber m-2,s who know how to use them and any pirates and their boats would be toast. hire the men to ride thru the worst areas and then helo them to the next ship going thru the same areas. it would be cheap insurance compared to the ransom the pirates would want. mr myopic.
  • woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 23,478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    motivational_somalia_haiti.jpg
    Dey gots purty clothes
  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    motivational_somalia_haiti.jpg


    They are never too malnourished to replicate themselves, it seems.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Speaking of Somalia, a NAVY SEAL was just killed there, along with two wounded in a mission against Al Shabab. [V]
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "four men on board with .50 caliber m-2,s who know how to use them and any pirates and their boats would be toast. hire the men to ride thru the worst areas and then helo them to the next ship going thru the same areas. it would be cheap insurance compared to the ransom the pirates would want. mr myopic"
    From what I heard most are 3 man teams armed with a duke's mixture of small arms. One man awake at all times with one asleep and one "on call". It looked like a good gig for someone who didn't mind being on a boat-not for me.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Capture them, sink their boat, open the beer cooler, pull a few deck chairs to the rail and have them all walk the plank without blindfolds [:D]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    If I were in Somalia, the things I would be willing to do to leave would boggle your mind.

    That place is a failed government poop hole.





    About like the USA when you look at CA, IL, Detroit, and Chicago.
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    quote:Originally posted by mjrfd99
    Somalia LOL
    Just another thing they destroyed.

    Anyone see a pattern in all this?


    I'm up for a conspiracy!!
    Which "they" are we blaming for what?

    Really? Where are almost all the problems located?
    The list of cities above + the SSDD by the SSDD as usual.
    http://kron4.com/2017/04/24/hoards-of-crazed-teens-beat-rob-oakland-bart-passengers-in-apparent-orchestrated-attack/
    And:
    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Jamaica-homicides-jump-20-per-cent--highest-level-in-5-years_48331
    Can't cure stupid. Especially if it's genetic.
    The ghetto gangster culture has made the violence 10 x worse.
    BTW - who still pees in their drinking water? [;)]
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