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SVT 40

84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
edited November 2016 in General Discussion
Mikes thread, on his MV firearm selection, and his comment on his FN 49, got me thinking.

Yes, I've always wanted an FN 49. (But) I've always lusted after a SVT 40, in the venerable 7.62 X 54. I collect M38's and M44 carbines. Consequently, I have a lot of this ammunition. I've always wanted a semi-autos, in this potent caliber.


Does anyone here, own one??

Thoughts?

Opinions?

Insights?

Smart a** comments?

Comments

  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yea,,I got it as a novelty, big, long but it is a piece of work. They have went up considerable in the last couple years. Heck, get one,don't think you will lose money IF you decided you didn't like it.[:)]
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    Yea,,I got it as a novelty, big, long but it is a piece of work. They have went up considerable in the last couple years. Heck, get one,don't think you will lose money IF you decided you didn't like it.[:)]


    I've almost popped on one, at gunshows, a few years ago. (around $950-$1200.)

    Just got done looking at those offered on GB, prior to posting. Up a little, but not crazy. I believe it to be an under-appreciated precursor to the modern battle rifle. I will own one, one day.

    Do you also own any Mosin Nagants, Grasshopper??

    What compeled you to buy the SVT-40?
  • M1A762M1A762 Member Posts: 3,426
    edited November -1
    I got some SVT trigger time about 20 years ago. It was fun to shoot and fairly accurate. I read that the Germans liked to use them against the Russians.
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by M1A762
    I got some SVT trigger time about 20 years ago. It was fun to shoot and fairly accurate. I read that the Germans liked to use them against the Russians.


    I'd bet, the Russians didn't have a problem, using them on the Germans either.
  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you can, get one. [8D]

    Be careful when stripping it. I have a permanent mark on my right palm from where mine bit me because I was stoopid. [B)]
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yo, I need a Member to step up, and offer his "novelty," SVT-40 on a BIN GB auction. [:D]
  • redneckandyredneckandy Member Posts: 9,714 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I really like my FN49 7x57. I would choose it over the SVT every time.
    That being said since you already have a ton of ammo for the SVT it might be better for you.
    Buy one, you only live once.
    Then buy a FN49 and start hoarding another caliber.
    Since you are now collecting large caliber semis you need a Garand.
    That should keep you busy for a month.[:D]
  • 1BigGuy1BigGuy Member Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A quick check on the auction side shows several available.
    Of course, they are ALL half again or more expensive than the one I got in 2010 there.
  • Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,259 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bought a Fn49 chambered in 30/06 around 1990 for $200. It was in really nice condition but the guy needed money. He also sold me a pretty decent Garland a week later also for $200. I sold that FN a couple of years ago on the auction side and let's just say the profit margin was pretty good. [:)] I also owned the Russian gun around the same time. Both are nice but given the choice I would go with the FN.
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redneckandy
    I really like my FN49 7x57. I would choose it over the SVT every time.
    That being said since you already have a ton of ammo for the SVT it might be better for you.
    Buy one, you only live once.
    Then buy a FN49 and start hoarding another caliber.
    Since you are now collecting large caliber

    Mysemis you need a Garand.
    That should keep you busy for a month.[:D]


    I own a couple Mausers, in the 7mm and 8mm variety, so i've got that caliber ammo covered as well. [:D]

    My collection, is pretty broad.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The SVT-40 or Samozaryadnaya Vintovka Tokareva, is one of my favorite guns to shoot. I got mine abused and pretty much non-functional, works like a Swiss watch now. If you have a problem with one, I've already had it, and can tell you how to fix it.
    A couple of years ago on another forum, I got in touch with a young man in Mongolia that had an AVT-40(select fire),and got him to post a video of him shooting it full auto. He's about 5'4" and about 140lbs. If it didn't jam on the 4th round, he would have been flat on his back shooting up in the air![:D] I'll see if I can find the video and post it here.
    They were issued to noncoms, and only used in F/A in an emergency. The barrels were too light in profile, slow motion video shows the barrel whipping like a piece of rope. That's why all the hand guards have a brass screw/pin through the rear, so they don't crack under recoil.
    The Finns and Germans captured thousands of them, and put them back on the front line as their own. The Germans designated them as the G.259(r), and even issued a manual for them.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,974 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    About 3 weeks back I saw one of those at my LGS. The thing that caught my eye was the AK looking fore grip and how long she was. Don't recall much after seeing the sticker $1200. Since there was no magazine on the rifle I didn't know how much she packed.
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    $1200, seems to be the average going rate. Should have picked one up, couple years ago, when you could score one for $1k. Not too bad of an appreciation though.

    Besides, if you get one, they are only going up in value. Something I like to consider, as I think of my collection as investments.

    Part of my whole justification argument. [:D]
  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What I remember best about those rifles: Almost 60 years ago, there were 3 10-12 year old little girls that lived in our neighborhood and liked to hang out around my wife and myself. I had just received the latest American Rifleman magazine and was at my desk looking at an ad for that Russian rifle, when one of the girls looked over my shoulder and said, "What's that?" Knowing she didn't care and was just trying to get my attention, I said, "That's a gas-operated, semi-automatic, magazine fed Russian rifle in 7.62x54R." A second little girl, about then, showed up and said, "What's that." The first little girl, flush with newly obtained knowledge said, "It's a gasoline-operated rifle."
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ambrose
    What I remember best about those rifles: Almost 60 years ago, there were 3 10-12 year old little girls that lived in our neighborhood and liked to hang out around my wife and myself. I had just received the latest American Rifleman magazine and was at my desk looking at an ad for that Russian rifle, when one of the girls looked over my shoulder and said, "What's that?" Knowing she didn't care and was just trying to get my attention, I said, "That's a gas-operated, semi-automatic, magazine fed Russian rifle in 7.62x54R." A second little girl, about then, showed up and said, "What's that." The first little girl, flush with newly obtained knowledge said, "It's a gasoline-operated rifle."



    Two stroke, or four stroke??
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    Yea,,I got it as a novelty, big, long but it is a piece of work. They have went up considerable in the last couple years. Heck, get one,don't think you will lose money IF you decided you didn't like it.[:)]


    I've almost popped on one, at gunshows, a few years ago. (around $950-$1200.)

    Just got done looking at those offered on GB, prior to posting. Up a little, but not crazy. I believe it to be an under-appreciated precursor to the modern battle rifle. I will own one, one day.

    Do you also own any Mosin Nagants, Grasshopper??

    What compeled you to buy the SVT-40?




    The compelling factor for my first one was ,"I haven't had one of those." During the last 30 years I have tried to have and shoot at least one gun that I had never used or owned. SOOOOOOOOOOO MANY types of firearms. No Nagants right now but have had several and they were good utilitarian rifles of course for the money. Got an * load of ammo so might have to go pick up another one.
    I am attracted to the unusual firearm and am a sucker for out of the norm. I currently picked up and Enfield" MP 45 pistol, "big brute", and a LUSA rifle and pistol combo that I have to try out. They look very well made.[:I][:)]
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
    Yo, I need a Member to step up, and offer his "novelty," SVT-40 on a BIN GB auction. [:D]




    [:)][:)][:D][:I]
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    quote:Originally posted by 84Bravo1
    Yo, I need a Member to step up, and offer his "novelty," SVT-40 on a BIN GB auction. [:D]




    [:)][:)][:D][:I]


    So does that mean, your OK, with a BIN, of $900?? [:D][:p]
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
    About 3 weeks back I saw one of those at my LGS. The thing that caught my eye was the AK looking fore grip and how long she was. Don't recall much after seeing the sticker $1200. Since there was no magazine on the rifle I didn't know how much she packed.

    10 rounds in the standard SVT mag, 8 rnds in the Numrich repro mag if you want it to function, and 15 rnds in the SVT-38 mags,...if you can afford one.
    Mags are serialed to the rifle, as they have to be fitted to the gun. You'll find original mags with several serial numbers lined out, and a new one added from being re-arsenaled.
    The Numrich repros all have the same serial number from the one mag they were copied from. They come with sharp edges that have to be smoothed and rounded, and a slightly oversized feed ramp. That's actually a plus so you can match it to the rifle's ramp.
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TRAP55
    quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
    About 3 weeks back I saw one of those at my LGS. The thing that caught my eye was the AK looking fore grip and how long she was. Don't recall much after seeing the sticker $1200. Since there was no magazine on the rifle I didn't know how much she packed.

    10 rounds in the standard SVT mag, 8 rnds in the Numrich repro mag if you want it to function, and 15 rnds in the SVT-38 mags,...if you can afford one.
    Mags are serialed to the rifle, as they have to be fitted to the gun. You'll find original mags with several serial numbers lined out, and a new one added from being re-arsenaled.
    The Numrich repros all have the same serial number from the one mag they were copied from. They come with sharp edges that have to be smoothed and rounded, and a slightly oversized feed ramp. That's actually a plus so you can match it to the rifle's ramp.


    That is a good heads up, Trap55. Thank you.
  • TRAP55TRAP55 Member Posts: 8,292 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ken, I could type pages on what to look for. If and when you find one, feel free to PM me for info on it.
    An absolute must before you shoot it, you'll need two tools. The gas adjustment wrench, and a SKS/AK47 sight adjustment tool. It works on the SVT front sight, and the sight post adjuster fits the stock crossbolt too.
    The gas adjustment has to be set for what ever flavor of ammo you're shooting. Which reminds me of the most common problem with a SVT.
    Gas piston and cylinder are either serviceable, or completely eaten up from corrosive primers. A friend of mine had a machinist make a couple hundred out of stainless. I bought two sets, one just to torture test. I've shot hundreds of rounds of the nastiest combloc corrosive ammo through it, and it still looks and works like new.
    WhiteClouder required I bring mine to our annual camping trip in the Idaho Sawtooths, so it made every trip. Hey, he was the camp cook, never pizz off the cook![:D]

    SlateCreek2019.jpg
  • 84Bravo184Bravo1 Member Posts: 10,461 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TRAP55
    Ken, I could type pages on what to look for. If and when you find one, feel free to PM me for info on it.
    An absolute must before you shoot it, you'll need two tools. The gas adjustment wrench, and a SKS/AK47 sight adjustment tool. It works on the SVT front sight, and the sight post adjuster fits the stock crossbolt too.
    The gas adjustment has to be set for what ever flavor of ammo you're shooting. Which reminds me of the most common problem with a SVT.
    Gas piston and cylinder are either serviceable, or completely eaten up from corrosive primers. A friend of mine had a machinist make a couple hundred out of stainless. I bought two sets, one just to torture test. I've shot hundreds of rounds of the nastiest combloc corrosive ammo through it, and it still looks and works like new.
    WhiteClouder required I bring mine to our annual camping trip in the Idaho Sawtooths, so it made every trip. Hey, he was the camp cook, never pizz off the cook![:D]

    SlateCreek2019.jpg


    Very nice Trap. Very nice.
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