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Win model 70 DOM
ATHOMSON
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Im tring to find the date of manufcture on a winchester model 70 and cant find it on winchesters website. the serial number is 245254. can anyone tell me about when it was made?
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AT
That said. I believe post 64 production started at 700,000. If this is correct? Likely your DOM, is either 64 or 65.
Correction: Bert has pointed out that the G did not start till later. I learned something on that one. Here is why the "G" designation is a little confusing.
I found this on another forum. I was under the impression all post 63 model 70's were started with a G. My bad.
All pre-64 Model 70's are in the range 1 - 581471, production ended in October 1963.
Push-feed (Post-64) Model 70's began with serial number 700000 on 1 OCT 1963.
The "G" prefix was applied in compliance with federal regulations resulting from the Gun Control Act of 1968; no duplicate firearm serial numbers could be produced by a manufacturer. Winchester added a letter prefix to the existing serial number range for each model. There is confusion about exactly when and at what number the "G" was first applied. Rule states it happened at serial number 1,028,077 on August 25, 1971. DeHass states that it happened at serial number 866,000 in 1968 concurrent with the improvements of 1968, notably the guide lug on the bolt. I believe the DeHass assertion is why some think the "G" prefix was established by WRA to denote the introduction of the guide lug. The Blue Book states serial number G941900 in 1969. I know DeHass is incorrect; I have seen (and owned one) high 870,000 series and there are reported low 900,000 series Model 70's without the "G" prefix. I also think Rule is wrong, you can find high number 900,000 series rifles with the "G" prefix (G969XXX is on GunBroker right now). Blue Book may be the closest to being correct in this case.
That serial number should start with a G. It should be a post 63 1965.
Not true. The "G" prefix was not used until 1968, beginning near serial number 874,000.
serial # 743350? Any help?
AT
Late in the year 1964.
That serial number should start with a G. It should be a post 63 1965.
Correction: Bert has pointed out that the G did not start till later. I learned something on that one. Here is why the "G" designation is a little confusing.
I found this on another forum. I was under the impression all post 63 model 70's were started with a G. My bad.
All pre-64 Model 70's are in the range 1 - 581471, production ended in October 1963.
Push-feed (Post-64) Model 70's began with serial number 700000 on 1 OCT 1963.
The "G" prefix was applied in compliance with federal regulations resulting from the Gun Control Act of 1968; no duplicate firearm serial numbers could be produced by a manufacturer. Winchester added a letter prefix to the existing serial number range for each model. There is confusion about exactly when and at what number the "G" was first applied. Rule states it happened at serial number 1,028,077 on August 25, 1971. DeHass states that it happened at serial number 866,000 in 1968 concurrent with the improvements of 1968, notably the guide lug on the bolt. I believe the DeHass assertion is why some think the "G" prefix was established by WRA to denote the introduction of the guide lug. The Blue Book states serial number G941900 in 1969. I know DeHass is incorrect; I have seen (and owned one) high 870,000 series and there are reported low 900,000 series Model 70's without the "G" prefix. I also think Rule is wrong, you can find high number 900,000 series rifles with the "G" prefix (G969XXX is on GunBroker right now). Blue Book may be the closest to being correct in this case.
Good edit.
To further add to this discussion, here are a few facts that should help narrow down when the "G" was added.
First, production of the "pre-1964" CRF Model 70 ended at serial number 581471 on October 18th, 1963. Production of the post-1963 push-feed Model 70 began at serial number 700000 sometime after October 18th, 1963. There was a retooling period that took place before production was resumed.
In regards to the "G" prefix, the purported last serial number in 1967 was 873694, and the last purported serial number in 1968 was 929990. The first receiver with the "G" prefix was undoubtedly somewhere between those two numbers.
The year of manufacture for serial number 743350 is 1965
No, it was not. Try reading my previous replies in this topic string. You are apparently using one of the DOM lists published by George Madis, or copied from his erroneous books.