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Kel tec P11
Gunsmoke310
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Breech does not remain open after the last round is fired.?
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I think it should lock open, something is wrong.
Check slide stop for proper function, or breakage. #280. I've owned one since the mid 90's, when they hit the street. My slide stop broke once. Called up the good folks at Keltec, and the sent me one gratis.
Thank you very much !..Gunsmoke310
See if the problem goes away with a newer or different type of magazine.
This is a really underrated gun.
Mine is accurate and reliable.
I was lucky enough to find a 357 SIG conversion kit for it.
Firing that cartridge in a 12 ounce gun isn't for the faint of heart.
Does it lock back when manually manipulating the slide having an EMPTY magazine in the gun?
This is a really underrated gun.
Mine is accurate and reliable.
I was lucky enough to find a 357 SIG conversion kit for it.
Firing that cartridge in a 12 ounce gun isn't for the faint of heart.
. No, gunsmoke310
Take the slide off and check the action of the slide stop. It should pivot up and retract down under spring pressure'
If the locking slot in the slide is all buggered up then you need a new slide or a knowledgeable man with a file who can recut the notch
You can send it in to Keltec for warranty repair.
Does it lock back when manually manipulating the slide having an EMPTY magazine in the gun?
This is a really underrated gun.
Mine is accurate and reliable.
I was lucky enough to find a 357 SIG conversion kit for it.
Firing that cartridge in a 12 ounce gun isn't for the faint of heart.
Question about slide not locking on empty mag when manually retracted is good, though I should point out that even if the slide won't lock open this way, it still could be caused by a bad mag follower. IE, this doesn't exclude a mag issue.
In terms of gun itself, the question wasn't really about that, but I'm personally not a huge fan of this one.
One I had functioned fine, at least with normal ammo, but I didn't care much for guns ergonomics. Trigger pull was pretty long and heavy, but trigger reach short, making the pull "wrong" for my hand. On top of that the grip shape is boxy, grip length short, and checkering fairly sharp, amplifying perceived recoil. I did find grip sleeve and mag pinky extension helped quite a bit there.
IMO this gun looked a lot better when there were really no other purpose built polymer double-stack 9mms on the market. The only thing close to this at the time was the Glock 26, which was really just a chopped down standard Glock and fatter. Now there are quite a few others to choose from.
Personally speaking, I like the PF9 quite a bit better. Its basically the same gun, only single stack so its thinner, with better sights, no harsh checkering, and better trigger. IE, Kel-tec basically addressed all the issues with the p11!
On 357 SIG version of this, I've never tried that, but I have shot the 40SW version, and it was probably the single most unpleasant auto handgun I've ever shot! .40 SW through a 14 ounce gun (20 oz fully loaded) with boxy grip and sharp checkering. . .not a good combination. Gun also had multiple other issues that prevent me from recommending it.
Gun was touchy with respect to reliability. Feeding issues were common. Rounds would hang up on the feeding ramp, smack the rear of the barrel and jam the gun part open. This issue might have been fixable by polishing the feed ramp or changing ammo type, I suppose.
That was DESPITE holding the gun with a "death" grip. Anything less than that, and the gun would "limp wrist", causing FTL issues. Slide lock also wouldn't work (or at least not consistently), but I didn't care, because firing the gun was so unpleasant, I wouldn't want to fire a second magazine (even if I had one, which I didn't [;)]).
"Limp wrist" could be a real problem if you ever had to fire the gun one-handed, especially with your weak hand. Slide is real tough to rack. . .another potential issue in a pinch if the gun jams, again, especially if you've only got one free hand.
Lastly, I question overall build quality here. Gun itself was really meant for 9mm, and from what I've heard the frame can crack with lots of use with .40SW rounds.
IMO, 9mm is plenty in a small gun like this, and above disadvantages more than outweigh any slight ballistic advantage from 40SW (or 357 SIG) from this platform.
I bought mine used 10 years ago and did a bit of work on it.
The ramp and chamber were polished bright as chrome . Additionally,recoil springs were bought from Wolff.
Trigger pull was improved by cutting down and balancing striker rebound spring and striker spring. I would not recommend messing around in this area unless you really know what you're affecting.
The striker should not be bearing on the primer.
The gun could really use a half inch additional grip length.Magazine extensions with pinkie rests help.
Mine is quite accurate.
Unlike many current autos that have copied the Glock action, the P-11 is a true, full time double action. I think at least a second strike capability is a plus especially today when duds aren't unusual.
Unlike full length service pistols which you can shoot all day without cleaning, steep ramp angles on short barreled guns when in recoil position are a basis of jams. Both ramps and chamber tops need to be clean and bright as with a bit of adherent smoking, they will jam from increased friction of a steep, smoky feed ramp.