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22 long

dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
edited November 2014 in Ask the Experts
Anyone still make it ?

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  • dodge69dodge69 Member Posts: 949 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been seeing Winchesters, and lot of 1890's that shoot a 22 Long. Is this the same ammo as I see that comes in 22 short 22 long and 22 long Rifle or is a special round like the WRF
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  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    it basicly is a .22 short bullet in a .22 long rifle caseing, you should not shoot 'long rifles' in it;some rifles, 1890 win. for examle will not even function with long rifles.
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  • SP45SP45 Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The longer lead of the long rifle round will protrude further into the chamber and contact the rifleing. This can create a variety of problems. Depending on the condition of the chamber you can just shoot shorts or run a lr reamer in the chamber and shoot lr ammo. There is an overall length difference so feeding in some actions will be a problem.
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  • SP45SP45 Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Also some of the high pressure LR ammo made in recent times is not safe in older actions. Standard pressure only should be used.
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  • oldWinchesterfanoldWinchesterfan Member Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To answer your specific question, the Win 1890s that were chambered for and marked ".22 long" will function fine with today's .22 long ammo. It is not a special round like the WRF. The .22 long we still have today has been around for over 100 years and is the same round that those old 1890s were intended to use.

    Each 1890 was chambered for a specific round and they are not interchangeable. It seems most were .22 short or .22 long; somewhat fewer were .22 WRF. Only in the last few years of production were some made for the .22 long rifle and they bring a premium.
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  • slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CCI still makes .22 Long ammo to the best of my knowledge. Not too easy to find but it is available.
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    As oldWinchester's says, it is the same "22 Long" that we have today. Those 1890's will not function with shorts, unless the elevator is changed. They were round specific, and not like the 1906's, or 62's, that had a universal elevator. Yes, you can single feed them into the chamber, but the repeater is gone, if you do use shorts.

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  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    .22 Long is a "special" round; the boxes will be labeled .22 Long, NOT .22 Long Rifle.

    The carrier is the exact right length to only function with .22 Long ammo. All other cartridges, Short, Long Rifle, or WRF will not feed and should not be used.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Long used to be made in standard and high speed .
    Just recently a gunsmith told me he alters the carrier to handle different length cartridges.
    I'd try shooting the 22lr in rechambered 22l before messing with the leade which likely advanced from black powder and lots of shooting.
    He also told me of altering a 22wrf to magnum that worked out well.
    I wouldn't do it because of jacketed bullets and soft barrel steel not in fear of that strong action.
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  • ZinderblocZinderbloc Member Posts: 925 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by slumlord44
    CCI still makes .22 Long ammo to the best of my knowledge. Not too easy to find but it is available.


    You are correct. A lot of .22 Long ammo showed up on shelves during the Drought of 2013. I think CCI must have searched its vaults for every round of .22 rimfire ammo on hand.
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