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Another Winchester ?

SP45SP45 Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭
edited November 2014 in Ask the Experts
Model 75 Sporter. A guy I occasionally do business with, usually high quality items was showing me some of his personal stuff. One of them is a Win model 75 sporter delux with a scope. Initially thought it was drilled and taped after leaving the factory but the proof marks on the barrel and receiver are at 2 oclock so as not to be disturbed for a scoped gun. He bought this about 15 years ago from a neighbor who probably bought it new in the 50s or early 60s and paid very little so it is unlikely a forged gun. Scope is period to the gun. Gun rates high 90s in condition. Is there any reference to these being drilled at the factory. If it is original what is value estimate in the condition I described.

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    MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,649
    edited November -1
    To the best of my knowledge there are no drilled 75 Sporters. Later Sporters had a grooved receiver for tipoff mounts.

    75 targets are drilled on the barrel for target style scopes.
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    Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where exactly is it drilled & tapped?
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    SP45SP45 Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    12 oclock on the top of the receiver. I saw this a couple months ago and have been wondering about it. There doesn't seem to be any reason for it to he faked. The guy bought it for 100.00 and he wasn't offering it for sale. This guy lives about 30 miles from where it was made.
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    Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I personally have never seen a Model 75 Sporter Rifle drilled & tapped on the receiver.
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    SP45SP45 Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I go back I am going to ask him to take the scope off to see under the mounts. See if I can get a couple of photos. The old style mounts cover up the top of the receiver so I can't really tell whats going on. Super condition gun though.
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    MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,649
    edited November -1
    Please look at GB auction 453884015. This shows a 75 Sporting with proof marks well away from the scope bases, too.

    As far as I know the 75 Sporting proof marks are always located just above the stock line..

    Now, if you are hinting that the guy lives 30 miles from New Haven, and that maybe the rifle was a special order drilled receiver, and it could be proven as such, I'll just hazard a guess that the rifle MIGHT sell for double normal price.

    Personally, I would not pay that much of a premium for it. Maybe a dedicated 75 collector would, or more.
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    SP45SP45 Member Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know that many unusual and uncataloged guns are found in Ct. where they were made. 12 years ago when I started in this business I was set up at a show in Springfield, Ma. Spoke with a retired Winchester guy who had 33 years for Winchester and was in charge of the custom shop and did final inspections. His words were when it came to Winchester never listen to anyone who said "Winchester never did that". He said that they would do just about anything that the customer ordered and that barrels sold for $1.00 a inch out to 30". Its just that more of this stuff turns up close to where it was made. Have seen the same with Colt. About 20 years ago a friend brought to me a Colt 1908 25 acp serial number "1" that was given to him by an old woman whos husband had worked at colt and was deceased. Kept in a bureau drawer for years. Eventually he sold it at Amoskeag Auction.
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