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Mosin nagant 91/30

brunette63brunette63 Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
edited November 2014 in Ask the Experts
Recently bought one at a gun show. Ex. condition metal and wood. No Russian markings on receiver or barrel. Muzzle end of barrel marked M91 7.62R FINLAND (self explanatory) on underside,and CAI ST.A VT above. Barrel has SA mark on top with no date or any other marks. Serial # is marked on hex receiver. Can you give me any historical info regarding these markings?
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  • brunette63brunette63 Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what is the difference and advantages of a "hex" receiver, vs the standard one?? also, where is a good resource for info on these rifles online?
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  • brunette63brunette63 Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can you re blue ? If so is the process difficult?
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  • brunette63brunette63 Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    got mine today and was thinking about putting a scope on it but what ive seen on youtube where you knock out the pins on the rear site and i looked at mine and it doesnt have the 2 pins like all the other ones ive seen. its a 1940 make. is anyone elses like that? no pins? and what would i do to scope it i dont care to drill and tap it.
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  • brunette63brunette63 Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Who makes a good, inexpensive trigger for the Mosin Nagant 91/30. The only trigger company I can think of is Timney.
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  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by brunette63
    Can you re blue ? If so is the process difficult?


    They reblue like most other guns, as they're made of oxidizable steel. Standard processes are employed by anybody who does hot-salt blueing.
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Of course, if you can't do it yourself, the $200-300 that a good rebluing job would cost might seem excessive for a rifle that cost $100-120. And, if you find that some small part is worn or broken, finding a replacement may be difficult.

    Neal
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  • brunette63brunette63 Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's the process of it?
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  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hot salts blueing is expensive to set up. It is a real job to reblue guns. Take them completely apart. Buff out imperfections, boil in degreasing solution, then the 300+ degree salt bath, then into an oil tank. Wrap all the parts in paper and let them cure for a week. Clean all the part and put the gun back together.

    On the other hand a spray and bake finish on an old war horse could be a DIY project and not all that expensive.
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  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the metal is kinda funky on it you may want to use some spray on coating on it. The cost can range you any where from $10-$200 to remedy.
    There are some inexpensive coatings that can give you a parkerized look for a lot less then a reblue and you can do it yourself. Like others said its a $100-$200 gun.
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BTW, the Hot Salts" method- also known as hot caustic bluing- does not use table salt. It is a super-saturated solution- usually water plus a nitrate and sodium hydroxide (lye). Boils at around 300 degrees. Will eat holes in skin, or cost you an eye. While it CAN be done by a hobbyist, it would be high on the list of "do not try this at home".

    Cold bluing (polish metal, degrease, apply cold blue, rinse dry, oil, wonder why does not look good) can be done at home.

    You may want to research rust bluing. It involves having a light coat of rust form on the cleaned metal, carding off the rust, repeat until desired color is achieved.
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  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by brunette63
    Can you re blue ? If so is the process difficult?


    "Can" it be done at home. . .yes.

    "Should" it. . .IMO, no.

    Chemicals involved are too dangerous and startup costs not worth it for one cheapo gun.

    You want a cheap durable do it yourself refinish that (IMO) is appropriate for a $100 gun? Try something like this:

    http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/paint-finishes/bake-on-aerosol-paints/aerosol-baking-lacquer-prod1143.aspx
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