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Sig Sauer P225/p6 slides out without stopping
nmikmik
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My friend bought one of these, nice looking gun, but i am not sure if it is a "normal" behavior.
When i pull the slide all the way back and then release the slider catch it literally shoots out without stopping. If i do the same thing while holding the slide with other hand, it does the same thing but i can feel it is trying to catch and stop at some point. My concern is, when we go shooting together tomorrow it will do the same thing and jump out of the gun on the return. Don't know if i explained it rite i don't have a good grip on the terms.
When i pull the slide all the way back and then release the slider catch it literally shoots out without stopping. If i do the same thing while holding the slide with other hand, it does the same thing but i can feel it is trying to catch and stop at some point. My concern is, when we go shooting together tomorrow it will do the same thing and jump out of the gun on the return. Don't know if i explained it rite i don't have a good grip on the terms.
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Take it to a smith and have it checked out.
Seriously, if you press the slide stop and the gun flies apart, that's a problem. If you can even get it to fire, it would almost certainly do that after firing, and this could be pretty unsafe.
You need to have the gun checked out by someone who knows guns (eg a gunsmith) before firing this.
Next thing, you should NOT release the slide from a locked back position by pressing the slide stop, unless you are loading a bullet from a magazine in the chamber.
The bullet loading into the chamber acts to cushion the fall of the slide.
If you do this with an empty gun (particularly repeatedly), the spring-loaded pressure of the steel slide slamming into the steel frame can damage the gun.
Its even possible that doing this repeatedly is the cause of the problem you are having.
If the gun is unloaded and the slide is locked back, you should cushion the slide with the other hand when releasing the slide stop, to prevent this battering.
Out of curiousity....
On the left side (non-serial number side) there's a lever located above and slightly forward of the trigger guard. This is the takedown lever.
When conducting a field strip when all is normal, you'd lock the slide to the rear, rotate this lever down, then grasp the slide and push the slide catch down. The slide can then slid forward off the frame.
What happens when you lock the slide to the rear and attempt to rotate the takedown lever downward?
dcs shooters - That's one reason I described that procedure. [;)]
I have to warn him and probably take my CZ with me anyway, just in case. I was actually looking forward to shoot from Sig because I was planning to buy one too. Oh well, safety first - must.
A. was able to shoot it today after asking the owner of the range
& yes Txs - the takedown lever was in the wrong position after we rotated it (pointed to the front) it worked just great.
B. I volunteered to clean it [B)] and now not sure if I can use the same solvents that i use on CZ52. This gun seems to be made of some kind of composite material that could be damaged by brake parts cleaner that i successfully use on my CZ52. The manual i downloaded from the net does not mention any firing pin cleaning (a must done procedure on my CZ) or disassemble of the mechanism.
So what should i clean it with? I did clean the barel with BP cleaner assuming no harm done there it was not that dirty to begin with.
Thanks!
That being said, you can use gasoline if you want, the darn things are almost indestructible polymer and will take all the abuse you want to give it. A sign of a well-made gun. If you RTFM 1st.
Why not use Hoppies or some regular gun cleaning solution?
SIG firing pins are a bear to remove. The P6 has a seperate breech block that's held in the slide by a double roll pin assembly which passes all the way through the slide (visible just to the rear of the ejection port). This pin assembly has to be driven out and the breech block removed to access the firing pin and extractor. Be aware that these pins are one time use items, meaning that when it comes time for reassembly new ones are required.
The good news is that their recommended firing pin maintenance schedule is pretty long. To give you an idea, even for law enforcement guns carried in an open holster on a daily basis SIG recommends removal for cleaning and inspection either every 3 years or 5000 rounds, whichever comes first.
On this pistol the portion of the firing pin channel immediately to the rear of the breech face is slightly conical rather than just a long straight hole and the firing pin has a corresponding taper. When in it's extreme forward position (time of ignition) the firing pin acts to seal the firing pin channel, which means there's much less opportunity for debris to be blown back in there. This conical channel/tapered pin design also means there's much less chance of the firing pin seizing up in the channel.
Just placing a few drops of good oil in there at each cleaning will do you well.