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Winchester model 42

ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
edited October 2008 in Ask the Experts
Hello to all. I am new to the forum and would appreciate some help from the experts on a Model 42. This is a fairly nice shotgun with a 26 inch barrel marked "full". The strange thing to me is it has a full length ventilated rib. By full length the rib extends all the way from the tip of the muzzel accross the receiver to the small extention at the rear of the receiver. The rib is really well done. How about it?

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  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    had a model 42 shipped in yesterday. it came disassembled. when trying to re-assemble the gun would not go back together. an examination showed the extractor is not letting the bbl seat fully into the reciever. also the cycle lever has no tension and i am unable to move the bolt. any and all ideas how i can fix this is appreciated.
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am looking for Win mod 42 # 16927 with a miss-matched barrel. Some time in past the barrel from your gun was switched to my 42. I am hoping you have the barrel for my 42 on your gun and would like to trade barrels. Thanks
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have owned a model 42 since 1959, It was mfg in 1955 based on the serial #. I would like to sell and purchase something else, but the bluing has broken down (no rust) and I was thinking of having it re-blued prior to selling. I am unsure if it help or harm the value?
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is it possble that the serial number 1 Winchester model 42 could come from the factory with a vented rib?
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am looking at a 1956 model 42 with simmons vent rib and upgraded wood. The forearm is the skeet type and the stock is a monte carlo type. The receiver has very nice blueing, but the rivets have a " fish eye " look to them. There is a small ring around each hole in the receiver. Possible reblue? Wood is very nice but how does all the changes affect the value? Asking price is 1500.00 Gun rates about 97% overall. WHATS IT WORTH Thanks jgr2018 PS No markings for skeet, trap or deluxe
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm looking at a Model 42 in 85-90 percent condition. It's a field grade gun with matching numbers. The odd part to me is it has a plain factory marked skeet barrel. It's a 5xxxx serial number. Any guess to cash price?

    Thank You
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I came across a winchester model 42, field grade, full choke, 26" barrel and a solid rib. The shotgun is a solid, untouched 95%. I have not seen enough solid rib 42's to value this piece. What would the ballparked value be on this piece?
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just bought a Winchester model 42 with the receiver marked trap and fancy wood with the barrel with a solid rib and marked skeet. Is there another 42 out there with a trap barrel on a skeet receiver? The serial numbers show receiver made in 39 and barrel made in 35.
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Model 42 Winchester that I recently traded for, and when I try to load the magazine the shells keep popping back out, and won't stay in. A buddy of mine has a 42 that he can get 3 shells in the magazine, but if he loads 4 they pop back out. There are no magazine plugs in either gun. I suspect that a weak spring or shell stop is the culprit, or something may be bent. How do I fix it?
    Thanks
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My father was a wholesaler for Winchester. In 1965 he bought a model 42 with a sawed off barrel. Winchester liked him a lot so when he sent it back to them for repairs, they completely restored the gun. It hasn't been fired since. Any idea on its value?
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm wondering if any experts out there venture an opinion. I have a first year manufacture August 1933. It has a standard slide and old style stock pistol grip however...........it apparently has custom /special checkering on the stock?? I count 19 (or 20?) per inch. Any guess as to whether original Winchester shop or? Certainly looks to be age appropriate but I wonder.
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  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Whats a model 42-410 gauge in fine condition worth ?
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dave (onlywinchesters) will hopefully answer your question for you (in great detail). That said, he will need to know when your Model 42 was manufactured (the serial number is needed to do that). Also, check both sides of the vent Rib rails for any markings.
  • duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can you show us a pic of the posts?? Rounnd, oval, square??
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    welcome to the boards![:)]
    sounds to me like you have a moneymaker rib installed to a very nice gun. how long is the actual extension on the top of the receiver?
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Additional info on the 42. The serial #143xxx. The rib is two pieces. It extends all the way down the barrel to the point where the barrel meets the receiver. A second section continues across the receiver to meet the wood at the rear. It is 8 inches long across the receiver. I can not find any markings on the rib. The posts are square. I really appreciate the help. If more information is needed please ask.
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    moneymaker rib. aftermarket.[:(]
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bobski, thanks for your help. What does this rib do to the over all price of the gun?
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    must see the rest of the gun to make a good determination. some people like them, some purists dont. moneymakers were very popular. post it up so we can see.
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • only winchestersonly winchesters Member Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello ahlosojoe: Well Bobski may or may not be right. MoneyMaker ribs have square rib posts. Simmons all had/has available a "full length" receiver ramp that runs the length of the receiver too. Simmons however loves to stamp there name on the side of the rib, (look above the "Model 42" on the side of the rib.

    Regardless of which rib, the gun has been reblued. While the vent rib makes it a nicer "shooter" to some. The value will be in the neighborhood of a standard plain barrel 42, in the same condition.

    Regards Dave
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    glad to see you back, dave.[^]
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • ahlosojoeahlosojoe Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks Dave for the information. Simmons is not written on the rib. You are right about the reblue. I have a much better idea of the value and who added the rib thanks to all of you that contributed info. It has been a pleasure to be able to tap into the knowledge that you guys have. I am also glad to have discovered this forum.

    Best Regards, Joe
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