non-22 Walther Sportmodell and PA law question

Fizzybob

I've got a "Walther Sportmodell" rim fire with a broken firing pin. I've been looking everywhere online for information and parts but I can't find anything except for a limited amount of information on the .22lr Sportmodells. I don't know what this is, but it is not a .22 or anything above it. I've got a sneaky suspicion it takes some sort of obsolete 5mm rim fire round. My questions are: does anyone sell parts for this gun or do I need to have a new pin fabricated? Does anyone know what kind of sub-22 rim fire ammo this uses? The barrel is very heavy so I know I can get away with having it rechambered to .22lr, but would it be worth fluting the barrel to help cut down on the weight? I don't intend on selling this and it's not being used for military training anymore so I just want to get the thing back in working order, keeping it authentic isn't an issue.
Second problem. My step-father died a few weeks ago, leaving my mother with a few shotguns, rifles, and a .357 magnum that she doesn't want. We both live in Pennsylvania, is it legal for me to just put them in the trunk of the car unloaded with locks and drive them home or do we have to take them to a firearms dealer to have them transferred even though she's not selling them for any money? If that's the case, are there any charges for the transfer?

mballai

Can't answer your Walther question, but someone out there might.

Each state has its own laws, but essentially if your mother can legally possess a firearm she should write a bill of sale ($1.00 is all that would be necessary) or notice of transfer to you with each gun listed by Brand, Caliber, Model, Type and Serial Number. It should have full address of your mother and your address. Check with a dealer and/or the state if there is any other details or restrictions. I would recommend that the state's waiting period(s) be strictly observed and that you transport the guns cased and locked as well as unloaded.

And take your mother out to dinner. [:D]

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rufe-snow

It would be easier for us to help you, if you gave us all the data you can regarding your, ( I presume? ) rifle.

1), Barrel Length

2), Overall Length

3), Repeater or Single Shot

4), Description of all Manufacturers Markings & Proof Marks, ( quality photos would be a plus ).

Fizzybob

It's a single shot, 44" overall, 25" barrel. There's a small stamp of an eagle on the left side of the barrel but that's the only stamp I can identify, everything else is too small to see. Here's a load of pics, the part I need is outlined in paper under the bolt. http://www.angelfire.com/nb/pixpage/walther.html

rufe-snow

quote:Originally posted by Fizzybob
It's a single shot, 44" overall, 25" barrel. There's a small stamp of an eagle on the left side of the barrel but that's the only stamp I can identify, everything else is too small to see. Here's a load of pics, the part I need is outlined in paper under the bolt. http://www.angelfire.com/nb/pixpage/walther.html



Your rifle is a "Deutsches Sportmodell" "DSM", it was manufactured in pre W W II Germany, circa 1930 - 1936. Many manufacturers made training rifles similar to yours, besides Walther.

It was chambered originally for the .22 Long Rifle cartridge.

Since production ended nearly 70 years ago, obtaining replacement parts would be problematic. The dimensions & tolerances on the rifles from the many manufacturers differed. You would probably have to obtain a firing pin specifically made for the Walther.

brimickri

Fizzybob,

My mother and my brother had to go and do a transfer in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania a few years ago. It's not a big deal, but you really need to register it in your name if you plan to carry it or keep it in your home, ESPECIALLY if it's loaded!! If the gun was ever stolen, you wouldn't have the legal right to claim it if found without registering it. Sorry for your loss, I wish you the best.

Dokey

To fizzybob,
Your walther is a .22rf. I have a single shot heavy barrel marked 5.4mm, which is the german designation for 22rf. Have you had any luck with the firing pin? Email me

williwm

Walther made several different 22 rifles with the "Sportmodell" name. Yours is not a "Deutsches Sportmodell"(DSM34). Walther did make the DSM34( along with many other German companies), but no bolt parts are interchangable.Here is a Walther DSM34.Notice the difference in the bolt and loading port compared with your rifle. Good luck with finding a correct firing pin.

nmyers

As far as transferring the firearms, it's too bad that your stepfather didn't give them to you prior to July 1, 1998; if he had done that, & you just left them at your mother's house for safekeeping, they are your property & you could simply wrap them & bring them home in your car trunk.

However, since it is documented that they were transferred to your mother after his death, she will need to file an application with the PSP to transfer them to you.

Neal

EDIT: I stand corrected, Richbug. Who would have thought that in PA, the word "firearm" means "handgun or SBR"?

richbug

The 357 is the only gun which will cause you issue. It should be transferred. Under PA law(sec 6102), the long guns are not considered "firearms" and can be transferred person to person with no issue.

BT99

There is an exemption in the Pa firearms law. A firearm may be transferred from parent to child with NO paperwork.