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How good are the Remington Sendero's?

ChetStaffordChetStafford Member Posts: 2,794
edited December 2008 in Ask the Experts
I have been saving for an Elk rifle and I finally saved enough for a nice rifle I am looking at the Sendero and the Weatheryby Ultramark. 300 Rum (Sendero} 300 Weatherby {Ultramark).

Are these two rifles coparible in quality?

I am going to keep the rifle for life.

Is there enough difference in the two rounds to make one a clear winner?

I have dies and brass for the Weatherby but dies and brass are not that big of an expense to make that the determing factor.

I Feel like I have beat this to death and am looking for some insight.

I already have a burris scope for wich ever rifle I end up with.

Thanks for any oppinions.[:)]

Comments

  • 336marlin336marlin Member Posts: 201 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Both guns are quality rifles but the Sendero is a bit heavy IMO for elk hunting. I like the Sendero rifle in other calibers but I'm not a great fan of the RUM cartridge, it's unnecessarily punishing at the back end so I didn't bother with it long. The Accumark and Lazermark rifles I've encountered are of great quality so I don't see why the Ultramark wouldn't be. It's also quite a bit lighter than the Sendero's. The .300 Weatherby is a proven cartridge and both are adequate for elk. I've heard of elk being routinely killed with .243's. All in all both rifles would be a great family heirloom.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I prefer a sendero, but it did get a tad heavy when I hunted WY. The sendero is a great rifle, very accurate. I have shot and loaded for a bunch of them, and they all shoot great.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    csjs1194,

    I guess the easiest place to start is at the beginning:

    - BOTH rifles weigh 8-1/2 lbs. according to the factory specifications. That means with a good scope, rings and base(s) you'll be near 10 lbs. approximately.

    - Both cartridges are proven and will perform nearly the same when loaded with a standard 180 gr. hunting bullet in the factory 26" barrels. The RUM will surpass the Weatherby with heavier bullets.

    - Without starting an argument about how much each costs, the MSRP for the Weatherby is nearly $2980.00 factory and the MSRP for the Sendero is $1300.00 factory. To put it more pragmatically, you can buy the Sendero, get a great scope, rings and base plus ammunition for what you will pay for the Ultramark alone.

    - The Sendero has an aluminum bedding block and the Weatherby will have to have pillars and bedding (more cost) to be sure of the consistency.

    - The Weatherby is beautiful, the Sendero is utilitarian and I prefer utility any day on an elk hunt.

    - If 10 lbs. for either rifle is too heavy, you have two choices:

    1) Start training now a little at a time until you are in shape to go elk hunting and carry a rifle.

    2) Get a lighter rifle and let it beat you nearly senseless with either of these cartridges. I have a 6 lb. .300 Weatherby and I can vouch for this. I also carry a 13 lb. Laredo in the field for elk hunting, so I know both ends.

    I shoot both the RUM and the Weatherby so I have no favorite in the choice.

    Good Luck!

    Best.
  • ChetStaffordChetStafford Member Posts: 2,794
    edited November -1
    Sorry I meant the accunark not the ultramark I made a mistake on that I have looked at so many rifle I got twisted up on that one[:I]


    But there is still a $600 difference between them that could be spent on glass and bases and rings.

    I just want a quality rifle that will be accurate.

    My 22/250 is a savage 12fvss it weighs 8.5 pounds bare so with the scope and bases&rings I guess it around 11 lbs. And I carry it coyote hunting all day. So that won't bother me so much
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I confer with JustC and nononsense. The way to go is with the Sender SFII. I just acquired one in 300RUM. The NightForce Glass I put on it cost significantly more than the rifle, but the combination shoots well so far. It is hard to beat the 700 action for being able to hotrod. It is like the 10/22 of centerfire bolt action rifles. Everybody makes something for it.

    Best
  • dirtyharry331dirtyharry331 Member Posts: 113 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having an older model Sendero in 270 Winchester I found this rifle extremely accurate. I picked the 270 because I am only getting older and I wanted inexpensive ammo to use and reload as well as keep my shoulder from hurting. I would not like to lose my enjoyment of a well placed long distance shot. Accuracy for me @ 100 yards is between .50-.38 group sizes with the inexpensive Federal ammo, 130 grain pointed soft point. I plan to reload to bring this in tighter yet. I have a Burris Black Diamond 8-32 x 50 mounted with a Warne one piece Base & Rings. Yes the rifle is heavy but I could reach far out there and hit what I point at. Mine is not stainless but has that matte finish (made about 93-94). I was looking to use it on elk out in New Mexico when I retire in about 10 years as well as prairie dogs. I want to sit on a ridge and clip those dogs as they stick their heads out of the hole. I love my rifle and my son says he will even keep it once I'm too old to use it. It was an investment I do not regret. Knoxx stocks have an aftermarket stock that would help reduce the felt recoil. I have the Knoxx on my 12 gauge Remington 870 and it feels like you are shooting a 410. Good luck with your decision.
  • carolinashootercarolinashooter Member Posts: 339 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Buy the Sendero. I have one of the older ones in .300 WM and love it. Combined with good glass, it will do just about anything I ask of it. One half MOA on a daily basis, often better.
  • mrbrucemrbruce Member Posts: 3,374
    edited November -1
    The Sendero would get my vote between the 2 mentioned....
    Put a brake and a good pad on it and you'll be fine....
  • cattle buyercattle buyer Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do not discount a good Win mod 70 Laredo with the BOSS in 300WM, the one I had out shot the Rem Sendero all day,I did keep the scope that came with the Sendero (a Leupold 3.5x10 fine duplex AO) its on a Win super grade BOSS in 300 WM that is my 'big game'reach out and touch em gun. With federal GM 190 gr match it will shoot a grunt over .50 moa on a good weather I'm on day.[:)]
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