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Hi-Standard Model B, Smith Question
nunn
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I recently received a Hi-Standard Model B. It is in pretty decent overall shape, but it doesn't work.
The slide will not retract. I can pull down on the takedown lever and remove the slide without resistance, but with the lever up, it will not move.
Attached to the takedown lever is a lug of sorts. It appears to hold the slide on when it is up, and release it when it is down, moved by the takedown lever. On one end of the lug is an extension that appears to be made to engage the end of the recoil spring and guide.
I am not a smith, but I can sometimes replace a part. Any thoughts?
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The slide will not retract. I can pull down on the takedown lever and remove the slide without resistance, but with the lever up, it will not move.
Attached to the takedown lever is a lug of sorts. It appears to hold the slide on when it is up, and release it when it is down, moved by the takedown lever. On one end of the lug is an extension that appears to be made to engage the end of the recoil spring and guide.
I am not a smith, but I can sometimes replace a part. Any thoughts?
FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com the best gun auction site on the Net! Email gpd035@sbcglobal.net
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now, its not an easy combo of moves to explain in words. but it can be done. im fuzzy, is there a pushdown pin on top of the slide like HD's that model b? if so, it is part of the sequence. you have to push it down and swing the lever in the right order. trick is to get the spring in place with hammer cocked and behind the hammer. new haven guns...whew. what bears.
john s.
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Former NSSA All American
Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
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There are three different takedowns for the Models B and C. The instruction for the Types IA nad IB are the same. Type II takedowns are completely different.
The types IA and IB have the takedown lever on the left side of the frame behind the safety. The types IA and IB have extensions of the retracting ros out the left rear of the slide. The type II has the takedown lever on the right side and has a small button on top of the slide.
Scans of instruction cards that came with the early High Standards are available for viewing , downloading or printing are available on my website at: http://www.histandard.info/manuals/letpistols/
Later , probably during or after WWII there were pictorial sheets for the guns with type II takedown
You can see the pictorial instructions at:
http://www.histandard.info/SCRATCH4/ABCDE_type_II_takedown.pdf
My guess is that you are describing the type II. Problems with improper take down and reassembly are pretty common with this type
take down.
If after reviewing the instrictions, you still have questions let us know.
John Stimson, Jr.
www.histandard.info
Mine is a Type II. If I understand correctly, I should pull down on the takedown lever and press the button on top of the slide to remove the slide. However, the slide will come off by only manipulating the takedown lever. I am not sure what the button on top is for.
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Box 6 shows how the retracting rod and spring should be postioned when taken apart properly.
Box 7 shows how to correct for the retracting rod not being in the correct postiion.
If the retracting rod is not in the correct postion when reassembled, the slide stop lug tip will not be behind the retracting rod and the slide will not function proprtly
Takedown - Actually the process is to unload the gun, remove the magazine, pull the slide completely back and then press the button on top of the slice thus capturing the retracting rod. move the slide forward, and then swing the takedown lever down. Pull the slide off.
Assembly - After assuring the retracting rod is properly captured, slide the slide onto the frame whicl holding the takedown lever down. when the slideis fully on, release the takedown lever. Then pull the slide completely back. The retracting rod shoould be released and the gun ready to go.
John Stimson, Jr.
www.histandard.info
I created a Youtube video that might answer your question:
High Standard Model B & HD Military Disassembly Field Strip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD43GAZ3TZ0