CEMTE 91

jgguns

Im thinking about getting an HK91 clone by century arms, what is your opinion about this gun. It looks pretty cheaply made, but looks arent always everything. Let me know!

-Thanks!

burpfire

hello. ive owned 4 of those exact guns. 2 of them were almost imposable to get a magazine to lock into the gun. you really had to smack the bottom of the mag to get them to lock into the gun. i never even shot those 2. on another one, the charging handle was extremely hard to pull back, and would barely go forward when released. tried everything to get it to move freely, it just wouldnt. the last one actually worked great. there have also been numerous complaints of poor head-spacing on those guns. to me, unless your getting it cheap ( under 400.00 ) its not worth it. save up and buy something better.

jgguns

thanks for the info burp. they are asking 650 for it so i may wait and see if the price goes down, but in todays hysteria i seriously doubt it.

leeblackman

I bought one of the CETME's out of shotgun news when they first came out, think they were like 299 at that time. At first I had to use my foot to get the operating handle down to move in order to cock the gun. Turned out it was full of gunk. After a good cleaning and lubrication, and a few magazines to get it broken in, it was easy to cock and operate. And the funny thing is even thru all of it, it never malfunctioned or skipped a beat. All in all, I'd say it was definitely a good bang for the buck.

Wehrmacht_45

Save your money and get a JLD. Much better quality and consistency.

allechalley

I also picked up a couple when they were around $300. As leeblackman says, the cosmoline is EVERYWHERE. They are a little tricky to get apart and back together. My first 10 rounds I had to cycle by hand but it got better and better. After a magazine or 2, no problems. They have a fluted chamber, so can be tough on brass.
The rear sights leave something to be desired, as only the front sight is adjustable (other than the rear being a 100 to 400 meter
aperture)

sandwarrior

jgguns,

As leeblackman and allechalley, have pointed out you may want to handle one first. And, cycle it to make sure it works. Most of the ones that came from Century have put back together decently. I know a lot of guys that are happy with theirs. It took a while for me to get happy with mine. I had to clean it up and some of the parts didn't ride together too well. It took a little 'wearing in' before it worked well. Once it did it shoots fine and is standard for military rifle accuracy.

As far as disassembly, the CETME isn't too complicated. Unless, you take the trigger group apart. I highly recommend not doing this as it's tricky, and difficult physically, to put back together again. Not to mention very few places where you can get information on how to do it. Spray it out with cleaner or soak in solvent as necessary and swab out and you'll never have a problem with the trigger group anyways.

The HK91 (and clones) is actually an improved CETME. During post-WWII a lot of German gun builders weren't working. Spain hired a lot of them including people who worked on the MP44. They came up with the CETME. When the German army could build guns again they went back and formed the company HK. But the design pretty much remained the same.

Edit:

The fluted chamber is standard on both the CETME and the HK91. It makes it tough to reload, but it can be done. Obviously, I suggest you get battle packs of ammo that is Berdan primed, or non-reloadable. At least not easily.

50-70RB

I bought a post ban (welded on flash hider, can't use a bayonet) CETME for under $300.00 several years ago. It functions very well in all aspects except accuracy, even with a scope. It's also quite heavy. I had to safety wire the standard scope mount to the non adjustable rear sight as it kept slipping forward with recoil. I've since replaced it with a better clamp on one from Cheaper Than Dirt. I just look at it as a fun gun due to it's lack of accuracy and cool (to me) battle rifle looks. Hope this helps.

chaosrob

PTR

quickmajik

There is no provision to mount a scope on the cetme, thats why your scope keeps slipping.

You can mount a scope on a ptr-91, and from everything I have heard the PTR-91's are 10 times better then the CIA cetmes in every respect.

If you cant find a PTR look for a Portugese G-3/HK-91 clone, they are also alot better then the cetme.

Wehrmacht_45

Or one of the Hellenic Arms Greek built copies that Springfield ARmory imported. The SAR 8, but make sure it has the stamped reciever and not the aluminum cast one. Those are junk.

quickmajik

Yeah stay away from the federal arms FA-91