C &R ??????????

longwayscrfirearms

does a sears 20 ga. model 101.5380 d fall under c&r ? i now, they dont have any real value, price is right (peanuts and a stick of gum) just as a beater orginal made by stevens model 18d

nmyers

There are no references for store-brand dates of manufacture. So, the default when you can't prove that a gun is C&R, is.......you need an FFL.

Neal

EOD Guy

I have a Sears .30-06 rifle I purchased in 1959 at age 15. I don't plan on selling it but was wondering if I did decide to do so after 2009, if a notarized letter from me stating that I've had the rifle in my possession for over 50 years would be sufficient to establish C&R status to the BATF.

One of these days, I'll write BATF and ask them.

duckhunter

No.

EOD Guy

quote:Originally posted by duckhunter
No.


I guess I'll never know until I ask. I'm composing a letter now with all the information I have on the rifle (markings, approx date and place of purchase, etc). Also complicating exact dating is the fact that the rifle doesn't have a serial number, which wasn't required when I purchased it.

BATF has been very responsive to my letters in the past, usually responding within 60-90 days.

I'll post their answer when I get it.

JohnStimson

If the .30-06 is a bolt action, it was probably made by High Standard using a european reciever either a FN or a HVA There should be a serial numbe on the receiver. These rifles had a date code on the barrel after December 1956 and guns before that date would not have a date code. Either way you could check for qualification for C&R status.

dotcom_guy30

i thought a c & r was for antique military rifles only ???

EOD Guy

quote:Originally posted by JohnStimson
If the .30-06 is a bolt action, it was probably made by High Standard using a european reciever either a FN or a HVA There should be a serial numbe on the receiver. These rifles had a date code on the barrel after December 1956 and guns before that date would not have a date code. Either way you could check for qualification for C&R status.



Thanks for the information.

I did find the serial number. It was on the bottom of the receiver. The action was made by HVA (Husquevera?). There is also what could be a date code on the barrel next to the receiver ring. It reads 5 69 8. The code was hand stamped and the spacing shouldn't have any meaning. The marking may indicate a 1956 manufacture date for the barrel.

11b6r

Dotcom- Curio and relic is (a) firearms so designated and listed by the BATF- like all Colt Woodsman pistols- regardless of age, and (b) all firearms that are 50 yrs old or older, in their original configuration- So a Marlin 39A made in 1955, a S&W 357 from 1950, etc are C&R guns. You may also apply to the BATFE to have a specific firearm designated as a C&R- if you can show them a reason why THAT gun has unusual collectors value (Elvis's 45, Ronald Reagan's deer gun, etc) . Not just rifles, and not just military. Try cruffler.com for more info. Problem original poster has is establishing just when the arm was made.