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New Mdl 70

Mark TMark T Member Posts: 140 ✭✭✭
edited December 2008 in Ask the Experts
Anybody got there paws on a new 70? ALl I have red has been good but lookin for real opinions. Been looking on Winchester site and there not offering many calibers. Little dissapointed in that. May be in the market in a month or so. It will be a Winny or Ruger 77. Got several of both, but no new 70s.
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  • kumatekumate Member Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    we can't get them out here in new mexico,but talked to a guy in texas and he said they are the same as the classics except better checkering.he said the best groups with factory ammo in the 300wsm are around 5/8" which ain't bad
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  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Should start yourself a new collection line with Tikka or the TC ICON, if you want a real shooter. Those new 70's are touted to be the best ever, but those marketing guys like to pat themselves on the back for nothing. They will never posses the workmanship that the pre 64's will...there was a lot of individual pride that went into each box. Those new 70's are WAY over priced too.

    Best
    EDIT:

    I do have a couple pre 64's, and 3 of the recent New Haven Classic 70's with the claw extractor. The 3 recent ones are all stainless, one being a 7mm Rem Mag, and the other two are Ultimate Shadow 223, and 25 WSSM's. All 3 needed some TLC upon arrival at my place. Pillar bedding, free float barrel, lap barrel, and a good trigger adjustment. Yes the model 70 trigger does not look like much, but it is infinately adjustable to a fine creep free, glass rod pull. I do not know how they shot before doing the work, but i know now that they all will approach 1/2 MOA, the onlything not being factory is the pillars, and bedding material, and scope and mounting hardware. The Pre-64's were already good shooters.

    I do work in an industrial setting where we have CNC machines pop out parts made for assembling. The CNC's are consistant for sure, and they are either consistantly great , mediocre, or poor. It all depends on the programming and the person loading, material, phase of the moon. Yes you will get better consistancy, but there is NOTHING that beats hand assembling by a skilled craftsman who has the know how. A machine does not have feel to it. I am in process controls, instrumentation, and automation...I am aware of the capabilities we have.

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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    the new model mod70's are produced by FN on state of the art CNC machines. They will be far superior to the older mod70's and I dare say on par with the pre-64's as far as fitting of parts. There is no way to beat a CNC machine. That being said, I agree, they are overpriced. They better get real with their pricing or their new factory will be for naught.
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  • bearshooterbearshooter Member Posts: 59 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Way over priced is right and whats up with the lack of calibers offered and where's the stainless guns??? I really doubt that the newest version is going to be that superior over the classic guns, I bought a stainless all-terrain Model 70, 7mag about 12-13 yrs ago, it was right at $500 NIB, lots of deer have hit the ground and nothing that a CNC machine could improve in that. I don't think the FN folks are offering what people want.
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  • cattle buyercattle buyer Member Posts: 532 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    From what I can read the only thing made by FN is the hammer forged barrel,the new MOA read Browning trigger may be slick as goose s#$t but the old model 70 triggers were hard to beat with a little work! And this is coming from a true Winchester poor model 70's lover, I also have several that are post 64 that are super shooters. Safe and Happy NEW YEAR[:)]
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  • shooter10shooter10 Member Posts: 461 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK... the question was "has anyone got their paws on a new 70?"
    So has anyone really had one in their OWN hands and shot one for real?

    Edit: Let's just imaine that Mark (original poster) is a very rich diesel maechanic and he owns his own shop. Price is no object. So...
    Can anyone that has acutally shot a new Model 70 tell him (and me) how it fealt and how it shot?
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  • godalejrgodalejr Member Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    they look good but for the price i will stay with my savages.[8D]
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  • schintzieschintzie Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have handled one, but have not shot one. The wood was very nicely figured. It handled like a model 70 should. I would estimate the trigger pull was around 3 pounds, but had a slight bit of creep; Still an improvement over USRAC 70's. The safty was not as smooth as I would have liked. Overall, a very nice looking rifle.
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