7-35 Waters - A very dumb question

sentry dog 69

Just where in the ammunition world does this round fall? I had never heard of it until I saw a winchester for sale on one of the auctions.

Thanks

11b6r

One I know is the 7-30 Waters- developed by Mr. Waters for a flat shooting lever action carbine load. Do a google for 7-30 Waters Cartridge, and there is a bit of info from one of the powder companies. Not really a wildcat, since there are factory loads and factory rifles.

duckhunter

You sure 7x35 and not 7x30??

Bert H.

As with every other .30 caliber hi-power cartridge on the face of the earth, the venerable old 30-30 Winchester was necked down to 7mm to make it a flatter shooting cartridge. As mentioned by the other fellows, it is refered to as the "7x30 Waters".

ATF

quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
As with every other .30 caliber hi-power cartridge on the face of the earth, the venerable old 30-30 Winchester was necked down to 7mm to make it a flatter shooting cartridge. As mentioned by the other fellows, it is refered to as the "7x30 Waters".


Bert,It's known as the 7-30 Waters not the 7X30 Waters.

sandwarrior

sentry dog 69,

This round is currently being chambered in TC's lineup. Federal makes it as well.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/browseammo.aspx?c=96&s=963

bobski

no such thing as a 7-35 waters.

RCrosby

no such thing as a 7-35 waters. ?
Certainly not in a commercial round, but I could easily imagin someone taking the 7-30 and necking it up to 35. Guess we need response from the original poster regarding whether he meant 7-30 or if it really is a 7-35.

nononsense

sentry dog 69,

Rather than try to re-write what has already been written, here is an excerpt from Hodgdon's:

7-30 Waters

In 1977, Ken Waters, technical editor of Handloader and Rifle magazines, began developing a 7mm wildcat on the .30-30 case. Ken's primary objective was to design a modern high performance cartridge that operates at chamber pressures compatible with Winchester Model 94 and Marlin Model 336 rifles. In 1984, U.S. Repeating Arms announced the availability of the 7-30 Waters chambering in a Winchester Model 94 with a 24" barrel. In 1986 Thompson/Center began chambering 10", 14" and 20" Contender barrels for the cartridge.

The 7-30 Waters is loaded by Federal with Nosler 120 grain flat nose bullet at over 2700 fps. Considering that chamber pressures are held to a maximum of 40,000 CUP, this is an outstanding performance from a rifle designed back in the late 1890's. Unlike factory loads in many other calibers, the Federal 7-30 load actually reaches its advertised velocity in the Model 94. In the 14" Contender barrel, the factory load exceeds 2400 fps, making it the faster factory loaded cartridge suitable for big game hunting available in the Contender.

The 7-30 Waters has proven its capabilities in the field on big game weighing up to 300 pounds at woods ranges. As this is written, two bullets of flat nose form are available to handloaders for use in rifles with tubular magazines. For whitetails, the 120 grain Nosler is an excellent performer, but when greater penetration is needed for Mule Deer and Black Bear, the 139 grain Hornady is a better choice. Any of the available 7mm bullets of spitzer form offer excellent accuracy and down range punch in the Contender. When loaded with a 120 grain spitzer, the 14" Contender barrel delivers over 1100 foot pounds of energy at 200 yards. The 7-30 Waters is not at all choosy about what powder it is fed, but for the one powder handloader, H335, or H4895 are good powders to start with.

Source: Hodgdon Data Manual 26th Edition






Best.

MMOMEQ-55

Used to have a Contender barrel in 7-30. Very accurate and great for deer. Brass is expensive and commercial rounds are limited. Traded it for a 44 mag barrel.

bobski

saw it on an auction? wish we had a link to it. that would solve that mystery.[:o)]