Winchester 1897

Wehrmacht_45

Hello, I am new to the forum and hope someone can help. I just picked up another model 97 take down and the top of the reciever on this one is matted. Haven't seen this. The slide is marked model 97 the serial # dates it 1940. From what i have read matted recievers where on trap models but the bolt is not marked trap thank's Gary

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I have a winchester 97 serial#413201 with a two barrel set 32 inch full and a 26 inch improved cylinder...what would the value be?

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Got a Winchester 1897 my dad brought back from Korea. (He was in WWII in the Pacific also, but I don't believe he had this then). Serial Number 953***. Got the GHD stamp on the stock. Pretty good condition. No rust, but a little "tarnished." Also, the pump handle wood forestock is gone. I have a replacement I ordered, but can't figure out how to get the damn thing on. Any idea where I can find a fieldstriping manual for this thing, or any easy way to get the forestock on?
These things seem to sell for a fair price, but I really want to keep it. Probably need to take it to a gunsmith to clean up, etc.
Any comments or suggestions?

Wehrmacht_45

hello,

i became a 16 GA winchester shotgun in quiet nice condition.
some parts are missing, but i hope you can help me out!
it is a model 1897 early serial (matching) build in 1898.

the trigger guard and trigger are missing and i guess some screws on the receiver as well.

does anyone had a good partslist with pictures?

thx

Wehrmacht_45

How long did they build the 1897 shot gun. I seen a add on Gun Broker that had one built in 1940

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Would like some information on Winchester 1897 sn# 306148.
Full choke, knob pistol grip, steel buttplate.
This piece is heavily engraved with engraving on the receiver, barrel and trigger guard. The wood isn't checkered but looks original.
Any help on value and year produced appreciated.
Thanks

Wehrmacht_45

I am inheriting a few shotguns from a relative. A Remington 870 Wingmaster, an early Mossberg 500, and perhaps the coolest, a Winchester 1897.

I do not have any info on the gun, but was just curious if there were any serial number ranges in which there were issues with the design being reliable or safe. Most likely this gun will only see some light clay busting activities, but perhaps might see some fair weather hunting.

Wehrmacht_45

This question is for Bert H. I am looking at a Win 1897 30" full choke with serial number 170692. Can you tell me DOM?

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i just picked up a model 97, serial # 169709. it's in very good shape. can anyone tell me about how old it is?

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Hi, Hopeing someone can tell me when my Winchester mod 97 was made?. Its Ser# 4167XX !2 gauge. Thanks

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i am trying to sell a model 1897 for a co-worker. everyone asks for the serial numbers on barrel and receiver. the numbers i have on the gun and has been verified by more than 1 person is LL2259 both match. on the receiver the letter C appears above it. any help would be appreciated.

mike

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I have a Model 1897 that I just picked up , accrding to the info I have found serial number date goes around 1904-1905 , it looks to have standard steel barrel, my question is, can it shoot modern style shells or do they have to be B.P. shells? Same thing with the 16 gauge Newport I also picked up? I understand that that gun(s) has extremely long shirt tail, with Crescent Arms .Both Shotguns are an very good shape and tight actions , just unsure of what loads are safe. I will take to Gunsmith next week to have them looked at . Thanks for any help.

Kory

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I own an 1897 Black Diamond trap,
It has straight checked stock, small old style checked foreend, 12 ga, 30" bbl,solid ribbed, with matted receiver. The breech bolt is marked "Trap Gun".

My question is: Do all 1897 trap guns include the matted receiver?


Thanks

Bert H.

Nope... it makes no difference which particular series it is concerning the reliability and safety. Winchester did make a number of minor design changes throughout the 60-year production era, and those changes resulted in the "C", "D", and "E" series guns.

That stated, never shoot steel shot loaded shells through it, and nothing bigger than a 2-3/4" shell. If it happens to be a 16-gauge, you will need to find a supply of 2-9/16" shells (unless the gun was made after 1931).

Wehrmacht_45

I know all too well about steel as I have seen people ruin barrels with it in older guns by locking up choke tubes or bulging barrels. And I forgot to mention its a 12ga so I guess I am alright then.

Thanks Bert.

Wehrmacht_45

I got her home and the serial number I ran came back with a date of manufacture as 1914. What sub variant would this be? What are its unique parts or characteristics?


Thanks

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by Wehrmacht_45
I got her home and the serial number I ran came back with a date of manufacture as 1914. What sub variant would this be? What are its unique parts or characteristics?


Thanks



The 1914 date is probably off the mark by at least 2-3 years, but regardless, it should be an "E" series gun. There should be an E" stamped just above the serial number on the frame (see the picture below)

Wehrmacht_45

Yep its an E gun.


Were the serial numbers catalogs inaccurate?

Bert H.

quote:Originally posted by Wehrmacht_45
Were the serial numbers catalogs inaccurate?


I am not quite sure what you are asking[?] The original Winchester catalogs never listed serial numbers. If you are referring to the serial number to DOM lists published by George Madis (and copied by numerous other publications and websites), then Yes, they are inaccurate.

Wehrmacht_45

Thats what I meant. I am somewhat surprised that the company would not have tracked it more closely. I know they were not required to until the GCA of 68, but one would think it would help them in product sales. Thanks Bert.