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Trigger pull mods on a Taurus or Berretta 92
swagg68
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This may be a dumb question, but is it pretty simple and cheap to modify the trigger pull weight on these guns, specifically lighter(4-5 lbs)? I have handled both of these guns and they appear to be virtually identical except for the grips and also the guide(not sure if that is what its called,Beretta's is plastic and Taurus is metal.
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I know a smith can tune the single action stage down with some smoothing and work on the Taurus. The Beretta is a bit better in the aftermarket department, but it depends on the year and sub model(92s, 92SB, 92F, 92FS) for certain parts.
Tell us what you have or are looking for and you can probably get a better answer. I will say my stock Taurus PT92AF has about a 5-5 1/2 pound trigger in single action mode from the box. As I shot it more it became smoother and less gritty. On DA mode you are lucky to get around 10lb on the pull and still have a reliable gun that will not light strike the primers.
I would see if a local smith could maybe smooth it up so it feels lighter.
"...but is it pretty simple and cheap to modify the trigger pull weight on these guns..."
It's actually very bright to ask a question before just diving into a project that might need some explanation and practice before pursuing.
Tuning triggers is not a good project to start with anytime simply because you can ruin parts quickly by changing the geometry of the parts and how they interact with each other. The exception nowadays is that there are spring parts kits that allow almost everyone to get some improvement without actually touching stones, files or triggers and sears. I suggest trying the spring kits first and then see a gunsmith for the stoning and fitting if needed.
The professional tune up procedures for this weapon consist of the use of simple stoning and smoothing in the trigger area, hammer, hammer strut and sear. No other adjustment should be made. The result of this work will be a much smoother trigger pull in double and single action. These procedures assume that you are a competent armorer or gunsmith and they must not be attempted by unqualified persons.
http://www.gun-tests.com/pdfs/1-4-berettamods.pdf
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=24757&title=SHOOTING & MAINTAINING THE BERETTA 92F
Spring kit:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=16421&title=#322 BERETTA 92F SPRING KIT
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/a_spring_ct_non1911.asp
Taurus PT92:
http://www.hobbygunsmith.com/Archives/Feb04/AutoShooter.htm
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Could clip (or grind off) a spring coil to lighten. Modifications can void warranties. How good are you at fixing stuff? I believe the Beretta to have more time with this ideal of similar design so consider the history of quality specifically the bottom barrel lugs.
My suggestion is to listen to the advice of which Nononsense gives in his post above. It is to late if you think you have done a great job, and have an accident where someone gets hurt. Or in the case of clipping the coil spring to reduce tension and lighten the pull...that could also create a light hit on the primer, and not have the gun go off when it desperately needs to in an encounter.
Lastly,if you are going to be using this for defence, make sure you are not the one doing the work or loading your own defence ammo. Lest, the DA make you look like the blood thirsty felon, instead of the victom.
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I agree about the hair trigger idea, I guess I wanted to smooth it out or make it lighter like a Glock. If a Glock is around 4.5 to 5 lbs I think I would really like around 4-4.5 lbs. Is this an easy and cheap task for a gunsmith?
Very good advice given already.
To add further, a competent gunsmith (and not all of them fall into that category) shouldn't have too much trouble improving your trigger pull.
As already mentioned, messing with stones and sears is NOT something you want to try yourself on any gun you aren't willing to completely ruin and/or make dangerously unsafe, until/unless you get a great deal of experience.
How much a professional trigger job will cost will depend on the individual doing the trigger job and which gun, but $100 is a reasonable place to start the discussion (some will cost more. . some less).
Drop in trigger kits are often pretty good. . .if you can find one for your exact gun!
FWIW, the standard Glock trigger pull is supposed to be 5.5lbs.
Supposedly some are less out of the box if you actually measure them. One mitigating factor with curved-type triggers is that the trigger acts as a lever, so WHERE on the trigger you place your finger actually affects the perceived weight of the trigger pull.
As already suggested, most authorities recommend that you don't go lower than 4 - 4.5lbs for any combat/defense type gun, for safety reasons. Light triggers can predispose to accidental/negligent discharges.
Yeah, you're not supposed to put your finger on the trigger until the sights are on target, but in the real world, people DO violate the safe rules of gun handling, especially when the adrenaline is pumping and their life is on the line.