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clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
edited January 2009 in Ask the Experts
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO POST A PICTURE? PLEASE? Without the picture, my request for info is kind of useless....

OK, I saw this at a garage sale the other day. WTH? I looks to be a palm gun of sorts....? The end screws off and it looks like you insert a single round in it, possibly a .32? Then with the black knob in your palm, you compress it and it would appear to fire at that point. I advised the guy to put it away, and let me find out what I can about it. So how about it? Does anyone have a clue? Is it legal? Should I forget that I saw it? Should I buy it?

Thanks GREATLY in advance!!
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am trying to ID this rifle & all I was able to find were various letters, numbers & characters. I am wondering the age & caliber & any manufacture info. Any IDeas? Thanks in advance!

    Sorry for all the photos...theres alot of stamps!


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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trying to figure this one out... Any ideas - make, history & age? Thanks! [:D]

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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a small 5 shot revolver. The caliber looks to be about 32. On top of the frame is stamped DEFENDER 89. It looks to be a rim fire. Under the wood grips, I find a stamped # 172. Thanks for any info.
    John
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My late Father-in-law brought back this pistol from Germany in WWII. He took it from a German soldier that tried to shoot him. It is a possible Spanish 7.65mm (32 Auto) semi-automatic pistol w/checkered walnut grip panels. It has MB stamped in the left rear of the frame, and 454 is stamped on the bottom of the barrel. Z.C. is stamped on the baseplate of the magazine. There is a lanyard loop the left lower corner of the grip. The official certificate to bring it home, has it listed as a "Pistol 7.65mm Spanish #24822". I have not been able to find that serial number on the pistol. It may be just some number assigned to it by the military at the time the paper work was done.

    Does anyone have any idea who made this gun? The research I have done puts it in Spain, possibly the Eibar region, in the mid 20's. It looks similar to a Ruby, but I'm not sure, based on the poor quality pictures that I have in my books.

    I have more pictures if anyone thinks they may help.

    Thank you.

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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    https://www.GunBroker.com/item/765048436
    Any idea what I bought?
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First off, hi folks from a newbie to the site. My mother in law inherited a derringer from her father. I have never seen anything like it, no one I have shown it to has seen anything like it and I can't find anything at all about it on the net. It is a swivel barrel 22mag derringer. It say CDM Products Inc. NY NY and has a large 2 on it with long written inside the 2. It says 22 mag on the barrel. It looks to be gold plated with plastic handles. There is a button in front of the trigger that you push to turn the barrel sideways to load or to turn it around to shoot the other barrel. I'm pretty sure it is at least 20 years old and probably older. If anybody knows anything about this gun or can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've seen and heard about them, but what exactley is a "stripper clip"?
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i HAVE A PRE 1900 10 GAUGE SHOTGUN. IT HAS A SIDE BY SIDE DAMASCUS BARREL, AND I CAN'T SEE ANY MARKINGS. ANY HELP ON WHERE TO LOOK OR BOOKS THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This brass is rimless & marked Hornady 38 TJ.It's about 3/16" longer than a 9mm with a much larger extractor grove. Anyone got any ideas?
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have recently come into possession of an action and do not have any idea as to what it is. Maybe someone out there can tell me what I have? Here goes: It has a straight bolt about 2 1/2 inches long.
    It is stamped on the left side of the receiver, STEYR 1912. On the barrel ring it has a crest with a shield and a cross inside the shield. Above the shield appears to be some sort of a sunburst? The action cocks on the opening of the bolt, and it has an internal box type magazine, with some sort of a rotary deal for the shells.
    Anybody know anything, or have a good guess as to what I may have?
    Thanks in advance for any info you might have. [?][?][?][?]

    Cliff
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have this gun in evidence and don't know what it is, maybe someone can help me.

    military in appearance
    short barrel with boyonet lug and shortr heat shield
    magazine attaches from the left side forward of the reciever
    barrel end to back of reciever is tubular in shape
    action is below the barrel and appears to be of stamped steel
    marking on the upper surface of magazine mount "M/78" and what appears to be a serial number another mark appears to be an "S" superimposed over a "V" near the serial number
    underside of magazinie moount is marked "STEN"
    no front sight
    rear sight is a simple peep-hole
    bolt lever is on the right moves straight back and can lock with by rotating upward into a groove
    wood pistol grip seperate from a wood butt stock
    butt plate is brass
    sling swivel on top of the stock near the butt plate
    butt stock maybe detachable
    magazine is about 10 inches long and is loaded with 38 special roounds

    gun is in an evidence bag so that's about all I can tell
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guy at the shop has a 22 pistol and I can't find it in my books. It says,
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    Grips look like old ivory and have a fancy circle with the letters AG in the center. There are nemerious marks that look like crowns Etc. What is it worth and how old?
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe someone can tell me the make and model. This pistol is marked on the barrel "32-20 Long Cartridge". It is stamped over on the bottom of the butt with the serial number. No other markings but the letters "B and G and G " under the stocks. Any help would be appreciated. Don

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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A good friend recently aquired this double barrel pinfire pistol. The gun is about 10" long and the triggers are fdlush with the bottom of the receiver until you cock the hammers at which time they come down. The bore is about 45 cal and the only markings we can find are ornamentations. The following link takes you to a directory of 3 images. The first is uncocked, the second is cocked and the third with breech open. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks, Ed
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A good friend recently aquired this double barrel pinfire pistol. The gun is about 10" long and the triggers are fdlush with the bottom of the receiver until you cock the hammers at which time they come down. The bore is about 45 cal and the only markings we can find are ornamentations. The following link takes you to a directory of 3 images. The first is uncocked, the second is cocked and the third with breech open. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks, Ed
    http://www.auction-picture.com/pic1/igsinc
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    [?]Hi, I don't know how formal or casual this all is so I'll keep to the basics. I have a small pistol --chrome colored--on it is stamped YOUNG AMERICA and BULL DOG. It is made by H & R Arms Co. I thought it was a 32 cal., but the 32 shells I have in the house won't go into it. They seem just a little too big. What is it?[:)]

    claire f walton
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I found an item with a lot of reloading equipment.
    It is 5.5" long, 5/8" diameter on one end and 3/4" on the other.
    The 5/8" end appears to be a knurled handle the other has a .45" opening. Inside the open end there is what appears to be a firing pin, the pin is part of a rod that extends inside the handle. There is a knob that extends out the side of the handle and this pin is spring loaded. There is a string exited the opposite end. Stamped on the exterior is: OL P/N 4891050 F33657-72-C-1007.

    I think it is a tool to fire a primer in a .44 casing, but am not sure.

    Any ideas?
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a 6-24x50 AO scope. It has target turrets and another knob on the left. The only other marking is the word "boresighter" around the objective. SWFA had never heard of it. How about you fellas?
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My buddy showed me a gun yesterday that is one of three guns his dad traded for an old car 40 years ago.(owned a service garage)
    It is a 12ga. SxS with miller trigger, english stock with fancy checkering and beavertail forestock. Receiver has engraved snipes, pheasents, and a mallard. The release lever even has a woodcock or snipe on it. The engraver signed the receiver. There is deep leaf engraving also.
    The rib has the words (N. LAJOT & Cle LIEGE-BELGIQUE). The bbls. are 26 1/2 in. and are marked (FALLA) on the bottom of both.
    Wonder if someone can tell us where it came from or what this gun is.
    Thanks, Dave.
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm trying to research this for a friend. He called it a skeleton gun. It says on it that it was maid by the Bauer Firearms Corp. of Fraser Michigan. It is a 410 / 3" .22 LR combo. I'm not much of a gun expert but thought I could find some info on line about it. I've come up empty handed until I came across the Gun Broker website. I thought there may be an enthusiast that would be able to shed some light on it. I think he's realy looking to see what the value of it is. Are they rare since no one at the local gun shows seem to have ever seen one. Any help would be greatly appreciated.[img]C:\Documents and Settings\MORRIS\My Documents\Gunbroker pic[/img]I cant figure out how to add the picture correctly so if anyone thinks they can figure it out email me at Mkerns@tampabay.rr.com and I'll send you the pic. Thanks in advance for your help.
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cannot find any info on this one, it has a number 13 on the left side and 13 in the face of the cylinder. A floral pattern all over and appears to be a .45 or higher caliber. Any help will be appreciated.

    PJ

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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i am seeking information on a break open, single shot 12 gauge. it says "victor plain" "american gun co. new york" on its right side and "genuine armory steel" on the top of the barrel. any knowledge anyone could provide would be much appreciated. thankyou!
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I may be completely wrong on this and I know many of the items you have had on this site are real but neglected firearms. However something just does not ring true at least to me about this ITEM rather it looks like repro that has been artificially aged to look old I see no reasons for all the marks and the hammer spur looks strange as well as the drop in the buttstock . I will be interested in what others think.
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    I may be completely wrong on this and I know many of the items you have had on this site are real but neglected firearms. However something just does not ring true at least to me about this ITEM rather it looks like repro that has been artificially aged to look old I see no reasons for all the marks and the hammer spur looks strange as well as the drop in the buttstock . I will be interested in what others think.

    Yea, unfortunately many of these firearms our client gets us have been in the worst storage conditions as they are not owned by someone who cherishes firearms...
    I think I may have to agree with you that this may be a repro but again I am not sure. It does seem to have an unnatural look to the aging.
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  • upjumtddeblupjumtddebl Member Posts: 363 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The trigger guard and oversized hammer are typical of german jagers but the brass sideplate is a 1803/1814 U.S. Harpers Ferry design this might be a early 20th century Bannerman product put together from 19th century new old stock purchased in the U.S. and Europe as he was known to do. just a guess.
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by upjumtddebl
    The trigger guard and oversized hammer are typical of german jagers but the brass sideplate is a 1803/1814 U.S. Harpers Ferry design this might be a early 20th century Bannerman product put together from 19th century new old stock purchased in the U.S. and Europe as he was known to do. just a guess.


    The Bannerman products...was each model built the same or did it vary according to what parts they had on hand that day? Does anyone have any good info links on this rifle or something similiar that they would like to share as I would like to read up & learn?
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  • upjumtddeblupjumtddebl Member Posts: 363 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Please note I am just suggesting one possibility that being said, Bannerman dealt in surplus arms from all over the world and cut down or reworked parts muskets where stock in trade sold to third world countrys where goverments would not allow citizens to own more modern arms or they were sold in Sears&Robuck catalogs as cheap hunting guns for as little as two dollers. heres one clue. in one reprint of a bannerman catalog dated 1884 there in a Austrian rifle produced for military contract to the U.S. goverment during the civil war in 70 cal. with the same trigger guard and oversized hammer as your rifle except it is a carbine I only saw the one page and there were hundreds of guns listed so maybe a catalog reprint might be the way to go for your research. to answer your main question these types of gun were reworked until the parts ran out and the quanitys are mostly undocumented again just my theory based on research
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  • clickclickclickclick Member Posts: 346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well I put it up for auction as a possible Bannerman & I received this email from a fellow GB member who made a positive ID on this rifle:

    "What you have here is a relic condition Austrian M-1849 "Garibaldi" rifle. The guns were originally produced with an Augustine Consol lock (we called them "pill locks") and were converted to percussion after the Austrian adoption of the percussion ignition system in 1854. A number of these rifles were imported by the US during the American Civil War. The gun is missing the flip up long-range rear site, the front sling swivel (which was mounted on a screw that passed through the stock and helped retain the barrel), the rear sling swivel and the rammer. The guns were produced in .71 with a very deep 12-groove rifling system. The gun accepts a socket-saber bayonet with a locking ring at the rear of the socket."
    Also have a link to a nice original:
    http://www.collegehillarsenal.com/shop/product.php?productid=4&cat=9&page=1
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