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1897 Winchester???

JesseLeeJesseLee Member Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2007 in Ask the Experts
I am looking for complete instruction on how to disassemble a Winchester 1897 12G. Recently, I inherited one from my Grandfather and need to replace the receiver. I am uncertain how he bent the receiver but he did. I want to get it back to shoot able condition. However, I want explicit instruction before I start disassembling the shotgun. Any information would be extremely helpful. Thank you to all.
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  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i'd suggest the nra book on long guns... but you need a lot more than that. there are at least 3 different m-97 receivers (and maybe more), and just were do you think you'll find a m-97 receiver?
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  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    JesseLee
    Numrich has 97 receivers for solid frame 97s in stock. If yours is a takedown model, as most are, get back to me , I may have one floating around. Good luck.
    W.D.
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Jesse,

    Mike's reply was very close to spot-on... we need to first know which specific variant of the Model 1897 you have (the serial number will tell us that). Winchester manufactured four (4) different versions of the Model 1897. The first has no letter above the serial number. The second has a "C", the third has a "D", and the fourth has an "E" above the serial number. The "E" series is by far the most common.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

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  • WIN 1894WIN 1894 Member Posts: 149 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a few of the 97 Receivers. email me if you are still looking.[:)][:)]
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  • JesseLeeJesseLee Member Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey guys - I have looked all over for the serial number and letter. I know that the weapon is all orgional but am having no luck locating the Serial number. Let me know where it should be. Thanks
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Take a look at the 12th picture in this auction listing... the serial number is on the bottom forward edge of the receiver frame, and on the takedown extention ring - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81452517

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  • JesseLeeJesseLee Member Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is not serial number located in the same spot as picture 12. Is it possible that I could have one that was MFG before they started numbering them? I do know now that it is not a takedown model. I will try to post some pictures for all to see.

    What is the general opinion of the AGI dvd's. They have one for the model 97. which to my understanding is the same, is this correct or am getting wrong information.
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  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886 ✭
    edited November -1
    Yes. AGI is good. See if you can rent one from the library, however. (The el-cheepo approach).

    One thing, though. AGI gunsmith is working on a takedown model. On a non-takedown model you must remove the tubular magazine from the receiver. Unlatch the front of the mag. where it is attached to the barrel band. Then the retaining screw on the front (right or left side, I think right) of the receiver where the mag. tube enters the receiver. Then unscrew the mag. tube, and pull forward.

    The goal here is to remove the mag. tube/wooden pump handle as a unit.

    From this point onwards, follow the AGI prompts on the video. Joe

    Sidenote. Probably a Winchester, but check this anyway. Take a careful look at the front face of the receiver. If you see a string of numbers there (hard to spot), then that's the serNo...And it's a Norinco. Joe
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  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JesseLee
    There is not serial number located in the same spot as picture 12. Is it possible that I could have one that was MFG before they started numbering them? I do know now that it is not a takedown model. I will try to post some pictures for all to see.


    All Model 1897s were serialized. The Model 1897 was an improved version of the original Model 1893, and the serialization picked up right were the Model 1893 ended (circa serial number 34050). If you gun does not have a serial number, it was most likely intentionally removed.

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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by JesseLee
    There is not serial number located in the same spot as picture 12. Is it possible that I could have one that was MFG before they started numbering them? I do know now that it is not a takedown model. I will try to post some pictures for all to see.


    All Model 1897s were serialized. The Model 1897 was an improved version of the original Model 1893, and the serialization picked up right were the Model 1893 ended (circa serial number 34050). If you gun does not have a serial number, it was most likely intentionally removed.

    That might also explain how the receiver got bent. Maybe someone was trying to destroy it with a file and a sledge hammer.
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