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serial numbers

northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
edited October 2007 in Ask the Experts
I have noticed in some of the auctions part of the serial numbers are purposely covered or partially so. What is the reason for this? Thanks for the information and education.

God Bless The U.S.

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  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have noticed knowledgable gun sellers in many cases indicate the year a gun was made based on the serial number. Is there an easy way to get this information for the novice. I have several guns that I would like to obtain this info........Thanks in advance
    Terry
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a winchester model 54 that is stamped 30GOVT'06 serial number 23060A. I was wondering if anybody can tell my anything on the history of this rifle. I thank everybody for their time with this.
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had several guns that were to be stored by a relative. Seems they were stored at the local pawn shop. I don't have the list of serial numbers since I gave them to the relative for safe keeping. I know when,where and cost of them. Is there any way to track them?
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do all guns the same model have the same exact serial number or does each one have a unique number?
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would someone please enlighten me as to the reason (Some)people will not list the complete S/N when listing a gun for sale.The only reason I can think of is they are afraid it might be a Stolen Gun. Ron
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi, I have a Double barrel shotgun made in belguim I believe in the 1880's by A. Greener. I am wondering if anyone knows when the Greener company started putting serial numbers on their guns. The only things on this one are A. Greener, Belgium. Lamanated Steel and the number 34. Also what does the number 34 stand for?

    Caz1259
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    if you ran a serial number and it came back as "no history" does that just mean its never been reported stolen or in a crime? it was run through the massachusettes state police, also is a high standard .357 magnum a decent target shooting gun? last but not least, where the hell can you find a holster for it? i mean is this revolver like a smith in size, can it fit into those holsters?
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dumb question that I, a self acknowleged expert, should know what the answer is. But I don't.
    When describing a firearm, the writer often includes a partial serial number on the order of 1234xxxx. Just what, in the way of theft or other misconduct via miscreant , does that prevent????
    It would seem unlikely to me that a full serial number would be of any use by the criminal boneheads of the world.
    Stan
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If a winchester had the last four numbers scratched off, but the first two are not, and the number sequence shows its manufacture date is 1898, is it still in violation, or since its an antique, the missing numbers are all right with the law enforcement? Is there anywhere to find a secondary serial number?
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    is there a site that shows mfgr dates for winchester rifles?
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a friend that has some old guns; a springfield 94a 16 ga. single shot and a remington 552 22 cal. We can not find serial numbers on these guns. Where are they suppose to be located? Thanks, john
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anybody out there know the site to check up on serial numbers to prove/disprove a stolen gun? Have a suspicious toy would like to check out. Any advice would be appreciated. Sorry if this has been questioned in the past, but I lost the site I had used in the past...

    Paul
    Mountain Magic Gunsmithing
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We are new to this site and wondered if you can tell us about the serial numbers. Most are listed as numbers and x's (as in 645xx). Could someone please explain??

    Thank you[:o)]
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why are serial numbers always not fully disclosed? For example 1234XX.
    Miles

    When in doubt go faster
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I decided it was time to get a list of all my serial numbers. I did not find numbers on two of my guns. One is a Remington 514, .22 bolt action, the other is a Remington 572 .22 pump. Am I not looking in the right place, or do they not have serial numbers? Thanks!
  • northidaho4X4northidaho4X4 Member Posts: 18 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hava a Glock model 19 with the serial number 0000. I was just wondering if this affects the value of the gun?
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BertH will be able to give you the best information.
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Model 54 was introduced in 1925 as Winchester's first high-power bolt-action rifle. It was patterned after the Mauser action. Serial number 23060 was manufactured circa 1929 (there are no surviving records to tell us the exact date). Winchester initially offered the Model 54 in 270 W.C.F. (270 Win) and 30-06 (30 GOVT 06). The Model 54 was replaced by the Model 70, and discontinued in 1936. The total production was a smidge over 50,000 guns.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree with Bert on the Model 54 being Winchester's first "complete wholly made high-power bolt action rifle". However, "I think" the Winchester Sniper Rifles Type No. 1 and Type No. 2, built on Springfield actions for the 30Gov't06 cartridge were produced in, obviously, extremely limited quantities in 1922 as match rifles for the commercial market.
    What's next?
  • Bert H.Bert H. Member Posts: 11,281 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I should have written my previous response "Winchester's first Sporting high-power bolt-action rifle." In addition to the rifle mentioned by Kimi, Winchester also manufactured a fair number of the P17 Service Rifles during WW I.

    WACA Historian & Life Member

  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you, Bert. I'm trying to learn more about the Winchester Snipers, especially, the one that came with the deluxe sporting stock which was made to customer specifications. This rifle seems to re-define the term "rare" where Winchester bolt action rifles are concerned. These rifles have escaped the knowledge of the Blue Book of Guns editors, Standard Catalog of Firearms editors, etc. Hopefully, in the not too distant future they will be properly identified.
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  • vdms55vdms55 Member Posts: 297 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hi NIdaho and welcome.
    we had this conversation a few months back (myself and some other members) but my memory is dim. i believe the "A" following the serial number desginates the one piece firing pin that came into production sometime in 1927 although i have a mod. 54 ser.#23998A and it has a two piece firing pin. go figure. it also has a 24 inch barrel, classic style stock, and claw extractor. come to think of it maybe it was't the change in the firing pin but some other upgrade in production. at any rate i'm sure who ever was in the previous conversation, if they pick this up, will elaborate on the model 54.
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