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Cody Firearms Win. 21 record
GuvamintCheese
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Why would my winchster model 21 20 ga. that is choked full and modified (as stamped on BBL) show being a full and Full choke on the winchester (Cody) records? All serial no's match, and there is no X-ing out on the bbls.
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As Kimi stated, it could be a Winchester entry error. However, I have on rare occasions asked the museum to recheck the records on old lever actions and discovered they were one line off. This was many years ago and the records have probably been computerized and less prone to research errors today.
Yes and no... Yes, the records have been computerized to some extent, but that does not prevent either Connie, Jesi, or John from getting off by one line when looking up a serial number (the digitized records are identical to the older microfilm records). Heck, I made that exact mistake last June using the new record format (I got off by one line) when I was working as a volunteer in the research department... had to go back and recheck when the person who called in insisted his gun was correct but did not match the records[:I].
Now, as for making a mistake and being a line off in the Model 21 records... not possible what-so-ever. To explain further, the Model 21 records look nothing like the standard ledger entries for all of the other Winchester firearms (lever-actions, slide-actions, and semi-autos). The Custom shop records for the Model 21 are entirely different than all other Winchester models (which were entered in the "warehouse" ledgers). The only way a mistake could be made by the research department, is if they entered the wrong serial number. I suspect that the person who originally wrote up the sheet in the Custom shop for that particular gun, simply made an entry mistake.
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quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
As Kimi stated, it could be a Winchester entry error. However, I have on rare occasions asked the museum to recheck the records on old lever actions and discovered they were one line off. This was many years ago and the records have probably been computerized and less prone to research errors today.
Yes and no... Yes, the records have been computerized to some extent, but that does not prevent either Connie, Jesi, or John from getting off by one line when looking up a serial number (the digitized records are identical to the older microfilm records). Heck, I made that exact mistake last June using the new record format (I got off by one line) when I was working as a volunteer in the research department... had to go back and recheck when the person who called in insisted his gun was correct but did not match the records[:I].
Now, as for making a mistake and being a line off in the Model 21 records... not possible what-so-ever. To explain further, the Model 21 records look nothing like the standard ledger entries for all of the other Winchester firearms (lever-actions, slide-actions, and semi-autos). The Custom shop records for the Model 21 are entirely different than all other Winchester models (which were entered in the "warehouse" ledgers). The only way a mistake could be made by the research department, is if they entered the wrong serial number. I suspect that the person who originally wrote up the sheet in the Custom shop for that particular gun, simply made an entry mistake.
....and thats what I was afraid of. I wonder how common this is?
quote:Originally posted by Bert H.
quote:Originally posted by Old-Colts
As Kimi stated, it could be a Winchester entry error. However, I have on rare occasions asked the museum to recheck the records on old lever actions and discovered they were one line off. This was many years ago and the records have probably been computerized and less prone to research errors today.
Yes and no... Yes, the records have been computerized to some extent, but that does not prevent either Connie, Jesi, or John from getting off by one line when looking up a serial number (the digitized records are identical to the older microfilm records). Heck, I made that exact mistake last June using the new record format (I got off by one line) when I was working as a volunteer in the research department... had to go back and recheck when the person who called in insisted his gun was correct but did not match the records[:I].
Now, as for making a mistake and being a line off in the Model 21 records... not possible what-so-ever. To explain further, the Model 21 records look nothing like the standard ledger entries for all of the other Winchester firearms (lever-actions, slide-actions, and semi-autos). The Custom shop records for the Model 21 are entirely different than all other Winchester models (which were entered in the "warehouse" ledgers). The only way a mistake could be made by the research department, is if they entered the wrong serial number. I suspect that the person who originally wrote up the sheet in the Custom shop for that particular gun, simply made an entry mistake.
....and thats what I was afraid of. I wonder how common this is?
There is nothing to be "that's what I was afraid of" about a legitimate gun. It is not at all uncommon to find records entry errors in the orignal Winchester records, and if the gun is legitimate, all of the "true" collectors will know it. As someone previosly pointed out, it is rather difficult to fake a Model 21 barrel assembly.
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